Author Topic: Father Wathen (Read 2902 times)

Matto · « **on:** March 04, 2013, 05:20:20 PM »

Someone, I think Stubborn, showed me this link in another thread. I would like to recommend it to others on the forum, especially for the radio programs. I am currently listening to the series on The Existence of God. They are quite good.

roscoe · « **Reply #1 on:** March 04, 2013, 05:44:48 PM »

The prob with Fr Wathen is that he thinks the Italian KOM are a fraud. The reason they are Not a fraud is because Pius VII says so--- end of story.

Matto · « **Reply #2 on:** March 04, 2013, 06:07:05 PM »

I don't know what you mean by the Italian KOM.

roscoe · « **Reply #3 on:** March 04, 2013, 06:17:23 PM »

When Malta was seized by the Brits & or Napoleon, a Remnant of the Knights Of Malta moved to Russia where they were welcomed by Czar Paul. They proceeded to elect him Grand master but( being a schismatic) this could not be recognised by Paul VI. MO is that the Czar was attempting to enforce the Council of Florence & was then murdered. IOW he was trying to reunite the schismatical Byzantine church with Rome. This would have prevented the Napoleonic wars.

Amongst all the confusion of the time, Pius VII decided to move the HQ of the Knight to Rome where they have remained ever since-- even though the rot has set in to the current claimants.

Quo Vadis Petre · « **Reply #4 on:** March 04, 2013, 06:19:40 PM »

Fr. Wathen claims his part of the Knights of Malta are the true ones, not the papal-approved ones. Fr. DeLallo explodes his claims in his book Sword of Christendom, though I don't agree with everything he says.

Matto · « **Reply #5 on:** March 04, 2013, 06:20:34 PM »

OK. Thank you for explaining that. I don't know much about the man except for listening to a few of his radio programs which I like.

Sigismund · « **Reply #6 on:** March 04, 2013, 06:57:23 PM »

Quote from: Quo Vadis Petre

Fr. Wathen claims his part of the Knights of Malta are the true ones, not the papal-approved ones. Fr. DeLallo explodes his claims in his book Sword of Christendom, though I don't agree with everything he says.

Well, I don't think anything essential in the life of the Church hinges on who the real Knights of Malta are. :smile:

Quo Vadis Petre · « **Reply #7 on:** March 04, 2013, 06:59:26 PM »

True, but I believe the group of which Fr. Wathen was formerly a member until his death are dangerous, unfortunately, since they openly opposed the Pope, even in the period before Vatican II. Their head is an open schismatic Greek Orthodox monarch!

roscoe · « **Reply #8 on:** March 04, 2013, 07:05:43 PM »

Quote from: roscoe

When Malta was seized by the Brits & or Napoleon, a Remnant of the Knights Of Malta moved to Russia where they were welcomed by Czar Paul. They proceeded to elect him Grand master but( being a schismatic) this could not be recognised by Paul VI. MO is that the Czar was attempting to enforce the Council of Florence & was then murdered. IOW he was trying to reunite the schismatical Byzantine church with Rome. This would have prevented the Napoleonic wars.

Amongst all the confusion of the time, Pius VII decided to move the HQ of the Knight to Rome where they have remained ever since-- even though the rot has set in to the current claimants.

Paul VI should read Pius VI.

Sigismund · « **Reply #9 on:** March 04, 2013, 08:38:29 PM »

Quote from: Quo Vadis Petre

True, but I believe the group of which Fr. Wathen was formerly a member until his death are dangerous, unfortunately, since they openly opposed the Pope, even in the period before Vatican II. Their head is an open schismatic Greek Orthodox monarch!

Very interesting. I actually didn't know that group existed.

Matto · « **Reply #10 on:** March 07, 2013, 01:34:05 PM »

For anyone that is interested, here is a sermon given by Father Wathen on Archbishop Lefebvre in 1988.

Stubborn · « **Reply #11 on:** March 07, 2013, 04:16:19 PM »

Quote from: Matto

For anyone that is interested, here is a sermon given by Father Wathen on Archbishop Lefebvre in 1988.

Excellent sermon - there is a lot of great things on that site.

His book, The Great Sacrilege is one of the best eye openers written on the new mass I've ever read - written in 1971, much of it is prophetic.

OABrownson1876 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 12, 2015, 09:37:54 AM »

I am selling the original edition of Who Shall Ascend, which is a must read. I have an ebay bookstore. If not contact me and we can agree on a modest price. These editions are brand new.

compline · « **Reply #13 on:** November 14, 2015, 07:01:53 PM »

Quote from: Matto

For anyone that is interested, here is a sermon given by Father Wathen on Archbishop Lefebvre in 1988.

This site's been down for maintenance for a few days. I hope we didn't break it!