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Father John OConnor
« on: May 21, 2013, 02:00:37 PM »
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  • I don't know how, but I came across this video today by Father John O'Connor. I had never heard of him until now. He was apparently excommunicated for "disobedience" (Satan's weapon of choice during The Crisis).

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/YlqBJsXsIYM[/youtube]

    I also found an old article about him after his death:

    http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/abbott/061214

    John F. O'Connor was born and raised in Chicago. He entered the Dominican Order in 1949. After completing a one-year novitiate in Winona, Minn., he went to the River Forest House of Studies for three years and later to St. Rose Priory in Dubuque. He was ordained in Oakland, Calif., in 1955.

    Immediately afterwards, Father O'Connor began his long career as a Dominican preacher, first as a parish priest, then as a college professor of theology and philosophy. From 1969 to 1989, he was part of the Dominican Mission Band and preached throughout the United States, England and Canada. The Blessed Virgin Mary and the Rosary were prominent themes in his Mission work. In the late 1980s, he found himself once again at home at the magnificent St. Dominic and St. Thomas Priory in River Forest in the Central Province of Chicago. His Provincial Superior was none other than Father Donald Goergen.

    As a faithful son of St. Dominic, O'Connor never had any difficulties with his superiors until Goergen arrived on the scene. Goergen wanted O'Connor out.

    In a conversation with O'Connor in April 1986, Father Lex Goedert, the Prior at River Forest, let it slip that Goergen was going to suspend O'Connor on some pretext or another. By this time, O'Connor, due in part to his long association with Dominican Father Charles Corcoran, had become a nationally recognized opponent of the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Collective in AmChurch and in his own Dominican Order.

    The fireworks began in March 1987 when Father Charles Fanelli, the pastor of St. John Baptist Vianney Church in Northlake, Ill., asked O'Connor to give a weeklong Mission at his church.

    A woman who attended all of O'Connor's talks said that his powerful preaching at the mission had parishioners lining up the isles for confession and that the crowds grew larger every night. Fanelli considered the event to be a great success.

    Not everyone, however, was favorably impressed with O'Connor's preaching.

    At the next parish council meeting in April at St. John Vianney, the members were informed that complaints against O'Connor's preaching had been lodged with Joseph Cardinal Bernardin, Archbishop of Chicago. When O'Connor attempted to get copies of the complaints, Bernardin refused to send them to him.

    On May 4, 1987, Goergen, in the company of another Dominican, Father Jim Marchionda, visited O'Connor at River Forest to discuss the complaints. During a heated confrontation, O'Connor told Goergen that Cochran had witnessed Goergen sodomizing a fellow Dominican. O'Connor reported that Goergen told him, "ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is becoming more acceptable now," and let the subject drop.

    O'Connor decided to go on the offensive. On May 13, 1987, he sent Goergen a letter questioning the financial irregularities of the Province, especially in connection with the St. Jude Thaddeus Shrine operated by the Dominicans on the South side of Chicago. O'Connor made specific reference to Father "Chuck" Dahm, a member of Goergen's coterie, who had allegedly been draining the treasury of thousands of dollars to finance various left-wing political causes. O'Connor asked for an independent audit of the Province's and St. Jude's financial records.

    On July 22, 1987, Goergen sent O'Connor a return salvo. Goergen told O'Connor, in response to the latter's request for a transfer, that he had no intention of reassigning him to another Province. Goergen repeated his demand that O'Connor moderate his preaching, stop mentioning people by name in his talks (especially Bernardin) and stop frightening people with verbal excesses.

    Goergen stated that he wanted O'Connor to sign a letter of apology to the disgruntled parishioners at St. John Vianney who had complained to Bernardin. O'Connor, who had been physically attacked by the husband of one of the complainants, responded they were lucky he was not suing them for assault and battery. On November 3, 1987, Goergen ordered all communications between O'Connor and parties involved in the parish incident to cease.

    Goergen needed a new line of attack.

    On December 2, 1987, one month after O'Connor had returned from a successful speaking engagement in South Dakota, Goergen informed O'Connor that he wanted him to visit a psychological counselor. O'Connor said no dice. Goergen backed off. It was back to the drawing board.

    In early 1988, Goergen made another visitation to O'Connor at River Forest. This time the Provincial stated he wanted O'Connor to stop "isolating" himself from his community of brothers. He also stated that the head of the Province of St. Joseph in New York had requested O'Connor not to enter his domain. O'Connor agreed with the latter, but said that his special dietary and health problems mitigated against his taking meals in common with his fellow Dominicans.

    In April 1988, O'Connor, who had maintained contact with the Holy See on his problems with Goergen, was advised by the Congregation for Religious and Secular Institutes in Rome to obey his superior (Goergen) and, if all else fails, to consult with and follow the advice of the Dominican Master General in Rome.

    O'Connor decided not to seek exclaustration. He would stay and fight.

    The rest of the year remained relatively uneventful. O'Connor, as directed, limited his preaching to the confines of his own Central Province. However, much to Goergen's consternation, O'Connor's anti-Modernist tapes, which included a section against the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Collective in the Church, continued to gain greater nationwide circulation.

    On March 31, 1989, O'Connor was advised that the Provincial Council of St. Albert the Great had issued an order forbidding O'Connor to preach — anywhere. The Council also recommended that he undergo a psycho-medical evaluation.

    In a letter of June 13, 1989, O'Connor responded by asking Goergen if he (Goergen) was willing to repent of his ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ life. The letter was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. Two days later, Goergen notified O'Connor that his suspension was fully in effect.

    On February 22, 1990, after more than 40 years in the Dominican Order, O'Connor was informed by Goergen that the process of his formal dismissal from the order had begun under Canon 696. Fifteen days later, a second warning was sent to O'Connor and formal charges against him were transmitted to the Master General in Rome.

    Goergen accused O'Connor of giving "grave scandal" by his written allegations against a member of the hierarchy (Bernardin) and against his Dominican brothers (Benedict Ashley, William Bernacki, Peter Witchousky and Donald Goergen).

    In February 1990, O'Connor received a letter from Master General Rev. Damian Byrne in Rome (Prot. 35/90/10) stating that O'Connor had harmed the reputation of the Central Province, the whole Dominican Order and the Church with his accusations against Bernardin and his brother Dominicans.

    Byrne ordered O'Connor to engage in a period of prayer and reflection beginning February 20, 1990. He also ordered O'Connor to check himself into the psycho-ward at the Guadeloupe Center in Cherry Valley, Calif. O'Connor refused.

    In the meantime, O'Connor had hired a canon lawyer to plead his dismissal from the Dominican Order in Rome, but to no avail [columnist's note: O'Connor's canon lawyer was the late Father Alfred Kunz, whose 1998 murder remains unsolved]. Additional appeals to the Pope went nowhere.

    In the summer of 1991, Rome informed O'Connor that he was dismissed from the Dominicans. O'Connor packed his bags and left the River Forest Priory forever.

    On Ash Wednesday, February 28, 1990, O'Connor wrote: "When I made my vow of obedience 40 years ago, it was first and foremost to Jesus Christ, His Mother and St. Dominic and in obedience to them only death will silence my witnessing to the Truth."

    To which one can only respond, "Amen."

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    How is it that I had never heard of him? Anyway, he seemed to be a real fighter, praise God.



    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine


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    « Reply #1 on: May 21, 2013, 02:08:53 PM »
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  • Thank you for this. I never knew about him. Another good true priest attacked by the hierarchy.
    R.I.P.
    Please pray for the repose of my soul.


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    « Reply #2 on: May 21, 2013, 04:51:04 PM »
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  • Probably the first traditional Catholic tapes I was given were by Father O'Connor.  I was soon confused because the Independent chapel in the area had a Father O'Connor as the pastor; but it turns out that there are two Father John O'Connors, both of whom are Benedictines who were drummed out of the order because the recognized the problems of the New Mass and Conciliarism.  The one at the local chapel was not the one whose recorded sermons I had been given.

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    « Reply #3 on: May 21, 2013, 05:34:55 PM »
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  • Well shoot, I thought everyone had heard of him.

    Yes, he was an excellent speaker who tried to warn everyone about what was going on - which is why he was slandered by his own bishop and kicked out, same as all (I do mean "all") the other clergy who rejected the NO.

    He also had many recordings about what was happening in the schools to the children, rock and roll, brain washing, communism and on and on.

    We used to listen to his cassette tapes back in the 80s - he had an awful lot of them, many more than I have found on Youtube - theres probably a website out there somewhere that has more of his recordings - definitely worth listening to if you happen across them.



     


    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    « Reply #4 on: May 21, 2013, 05:40:48 PM »
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  • ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Infiltration Of The Catholic Clergy  - Fr gets right to the point - video under 4 minutes - my guess is this was recorded mid 1980s.



    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/byiTb4uZmM8[/youtube]
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


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    « Reply #5 on: May 21, 2013, 06:40:30 PM »
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  • Very interesting, as is Fr. Rueda's book.  It is dated now, I am sure, but still worth reading.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #6 on: May 21, 2013, 08:22:57 PM »
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  • Another sad example of a good man duped by the conspiracy hoax. It's tragic to see it when it happens, but it does.  

    Occasionally, someone goes down one of these rabbit holes never to return.  He made a vow of obedience to the Church first and foremost - Not just Jesus Christ , His Mother and Saint Benedict.  He should have kept it.


    Some of this stuff is a labyrinth from which there is no escape.  Once you go in you can't get out, you have to be delivered out of it.  Pity...

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    « Reply #7 on: May 21, 2013, 08:49:47 PM »
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  • I expect I will be sorry I asked, but what conspiracy hoax would that be?
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    « Reply #8 on: May 21, 2013, 08:52:18 PM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund
    Very interesting, as is Fr. Rueda's book.  It is dated now, I am sure, but still worth reading.


    Cheapest copy on amazon, used, is $128.


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    « Reply #9 on: May 21, 2013, 08:55:50 PM »
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    I expect I will be sorry I asked, but what conspiracy hoax would that be?


    We'll ALL be sorry you asked! :smash-pc:
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    « Reply #10 on: May 21, 2013, 09:01:41 PM »
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  • Quote from: s2srea
    Quote from: Sigismund
    Very interesting, as is Fr. Rueda's book.  It is dated now, I am sure, but still worth reading.


    Cheapest copy on amazon, used, is $128.



    That is truly astonishing.  The library at the Pontifical College Josephinum in Columbus has one, or at least they used to.  It is an interesting book, and remarkably well researched, but it is so old that its practical relevance now is limited.  

    I once had the interesting experience of talking to a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ priest who was a seminary professor, and very much the sort of man that the book was about.  I asked him if he had read it, and he said he had.  I said, "I know you and Fr. Rueda regard each other as the enemy.  But is he right?"  The priest replied, "Oh yes.  His research is impeccable.  I am not happy that he is bringing this to light, but I can't say it isn't true.  I just think it is a good thing."  Chilling, and very instructive.  
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    « Reply #11 on: May 21, 2013, 10:13:08 PM »
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  • I watched all 4 of the videos here, just clicked on one after the other, and wonder how anyone can still ridicule at sedevacantism after watching?

    Especially when you look at the years ago he made these lectures.  



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    « Reply #12 on: May 21, 2013, 10:25:56 PM »
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  • Pawns in the Game



    Consider with me the following recording of William Guy Carr and see if what he is saying is not in fact in part being fulfilled by the current attempt at the manipulation of our perception of reality by those in control of the

    media in the United States through this Actor Based Realty Campaign that is being launched in conjunction with all the Mulit-Jurisdictional X-Plan Drills put on by Home Land Security...



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rYX-2HaX0So




    Yea, Father Oconner was exposing sin in the Church, but in his attempt to explain the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr, it became painfully obvious he was being gamed by those who are responsible for all these

    various conspiracy theories.


    The Rockefellers, Greenbergs etc are the ones calling the shots, Ok?  All of these cօռspιʀαcιҽs are created along with their opposition so that the whole thing can be controlled.





    A perfect example of the real hidden hand that is behind the conspiracy hoaxes that are being propagated by fringe element groups on the edge of orthodoxy is the following:  




    The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).



    !!! A GIANT HOAX !!!

    David Duke is played by an Actor.

    http://www.wellaware1.com/artwork/large/duke.jpg


    As well as his oposition at the SPLC.

    Once again Pima County Arizona come into play...


    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CiZqOILXGx4/T9WpjJBeaPI/AAAAAAAACP8/pei2n_KgmK0/s1600/543601_4231633473940_915946569_n.jpg



    Richard Cohen is Mark Potok of Southern Poverty Law Center and Capt. Shawn Cooper of Pima County Support Division!





    Sometimes you can get so far ahead of the Troops

    that they think you are the enemy...


    ...





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    « Reply #13 on: May 21, 2013, 10:28:06 PM »
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  • Quote from: MyrnaM
    I watched all 4 of the videos here, just clicked on one after the other, and wonder how anyone can still ridicule at sedevacantism after watching?

    Especially when you look at the years ago he made these lectures.  






    I would never ridicule your faith, MyrnaM - Ok ???  Believe what you will, just

    don't let them use you to Promote the Hoax...



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    « Reply #14 on: May 21, 2013, 11:53:43 PM »
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    A GIANT HOAX !!!

    David Duke is played by an Actor.


    Oh my good Lord.

    Have you ever seen or even heard David Duke?

    Have you ever seen the actor Thomas Haden Church act?

    As it happens, I can answer yes to both questions, but if you seriously contend that the latter (a truly poor actor) is posing as the former, you have no familiarity with either.

    Think what you will of David Duke—whatever you might think of his social views, he is a good deal smarter and more genuinely decent than at least 99.2 percent of those who vilify him—but you or anyone else that contends that he is a fictional character in a staged psychodrama is looking at the world with a mask over his eyes and fingers jammed into his ears. In other words, such a person has been deluded by the very people he prides himself on exposing.