They are clutching at straws.

Barney the Dinosaur masses and celebrating Hanukah with the Jєωs don't correlate with a Pope who will consecrate Russia against the will of the majority of Bishops.

If F causes a schism I am pretty sure which side of it he will be on.

What did I miss?

I'm getting a really choppy view of this video -- is that what everyone
here gets?  

I just updated my Flash player and I've restarted several times since
then, so everything should be okay.  I disabled RealPlayer because the
Adobe Flash help site says there are conflicts with RealPlayer and
Flash..  I haven't been using RealPlayer lately so I figure it's worth a
shot.  

Any ideas?  

Working fine for me...is it just this video or all you tube videos that are choppy?

I was hoping it was going to be insightful, but it was more of the same. They want to like Begoglio, they want to make him into someone that he is not. I was hoping for a more objective discussion, as I have not read anything from this corner of Catholicism in years, but no, same stuff.

I ran a virus scan and there was one trying to lie low in a download I put in
the CathInfo downloads folder.  I have no idea where I got it,
though.  So I deleted that and now I'm okay, the videos run fine.  Thanks.

Quote from: Mabel

I was hoping it was going to be insightful, but it was more of the same. They want to like Begoglio, [sic] they want to make him into someone that he is not. I was hoping for a more objective discussion, as I have not read anything from this corner of Catholicism in years, but no, same stuff.

That's about the size of it. Sameo sameo.
 

A couple of years ago, Fr. Gruner explained that when he first published his first
Fatima Crusader in the early 80's as I recall, people asked him what else he
has to say, because now that he's said it all, there won't be any reason for a
second issue.  "Well, that was then, and this is now - we just mailed out our
100th Crusader last month, and we're already setting up articles for the next
two issues."  

So long as Our Lady has plans for him to work, he's working.  

I imagine that in the first century there were people asking the Apostles, "Well,
now you've been saying the same old thing for several years now, don't you
think it's about time to get up to date?  I mean, are you going to have something
insightful for headlines next year, for crying out loud?  Can we ever find a more
objective discussion from this corner of Catholicism, or is it always going to be
the same-old same-old!?"

Fr. Gruner isn't trying to impress visionaries or sensationalism seekers.  He's an
honest priest with an honest mission, and he does not pretend to be something
he isn't.  But he's not getting any younger and I have no idea who there could
be to fill his shoes.  But there is no shortage of those who are tickled pink at
the prospect of there being nobody.  One of them is the devil.

And as for Pope Francis (a.k.a. "Bergoglio"), what if Our Lady wants to make
him into something that is currently is not?  Will that be okay with you?  

Maybe she had best ask your permission first.  Send her a memo.

Quote from: Neil Obstat

I ran a virus scan and there was one trying to lie low in a download I put in
the CathInfo downloads folder.  I have no idea where I got it,
though.  So I deleted that and now I'm okay, the videos run fine.  Thanks.

Quote from: Stubborn

Quote from: Mabel

I was hoping it was going to be insightful, but it was more of the same. They want to like Begoglio, [sic] they want to make him into someone that he is not. I was hoping for a more objective discussion, as I have not read anything from this corner of Catholicism in years, but no, same stuff.

That's about the size of it. Sameo sameo.
 

A couple of years ago, Fr. Gruner explained that when he first published his first
Fatima Crusader in the early 80's as I recall, people asked him what else he
has to say, because now that he's said it all, there won't be any reason for a
second issue.  "Well, that was then, and this is now - we just mailed out our
100th Crusader last month, and we're already setting up articles for the next
two issues."  

So long as Our Lady has plans for him to work, he's working.  

I imagine that in the first century there were people asking the Apostles, "Well,
now you've been saying the same old thing for several years now, don't you
think it's about time to get up to date?  I mean, are you going to have something
insightful for headlines next year, for crying out loud?  Can we ever find a more
objective discussion from this corner of Catholicism, or is it always going to be
the same-old same-old!?"

Fr. Gruner isn't trying to impress visionaries or sensationalism seekers.  He's an
honest priest with an honest mission, and he does not pretend to be something
he isn't.  But he's not getting any younger and I have no idea who there could
be to fill his shoes.  But there is no shortage of those who are tickled pink at
the prospect of there being nobody.  One of them is the devil.

And as for Pope Francis (a.k.a. "Bergoglio"), what if Our Lady wants to make
him into something that is currently is not?  Will that be okay with you?  

Maybe she had best ask your permission first.  Send her a memo.

I am perhaps for familiar with Fr. Gruner's apostolate than you, and I understand the necessity of repeating a message, the message of Fatima in this case. However, that is not what I take issue with. The issue is the ability of those involved to recognize the situation, ask the hard questions, and the ability to face the truth. To call Mr. Bergoglio a "Marian Pope" while his record shows that he is more dedicated to his "special friends" than the Mother of God, probably makes better TV than stating the truth about the man. They were basically talking about him in a conservative light, never stopping for a moment to consider that he is an obstacle to the goal of the Fatima Center's apostolate.

Who are you to presume that Our Lady is using Mr. Bergoglio in any manner? Or that Fr. Gruner, as mucch good as he does, is actually following the right course, the one that Our Lady wants from him? While I admire his dedication, we just don't know either way.

Get a clue, Mabel......Saint Peter himself was not a great guy at one point in his earthly life...Who are YOU to be judge of anyone? Anyways, this pope asked for our prayers....Our Lady TOLD us to pray for the pope.......but you refer to him as "mister".....shameful!!!

Quote from: Mabel

Quote from: Neil Obstat

I ran a virus scan and there was one trying to lie low in a download I put in
the CathInfo downloads folder.  I have no idea where I got it,
though.  So I deleted that and now I'm okay, the videos run fine.  Thanks.

Quote from: Stubborn

Quote from: Mabel

I was hoping it was going to be insightful, but it was more of the same. They want to like Begoglio, [sic] they want to make him into someone that he is not. I was hoping for a more objective discussion, as I have not read anything from this corner of Catholicism in years, but no, same stuff.

That's about the size of it. Sameo sameo.
 

A couple of years ago, Fr. Gruner explained that when he first published his first
Fatima Crusader in the early 80's as I recall, people asked him what else he
has to say, because now that he's said it all, there won't be any reason for a
second issue.  "Well, that was then, and this is now - we just mailed out our
100th Crusader last month, and we're already setting up articles for the next
two issues."  

So long as Our Lady has plans for him to work, he's working.  

I imagine that in the first century there were people asking the Apostles, "Well,
now you've been saying the same old thing for several years now, don't you
think it's about time to get up to date?  I mean, are you going to have something
insightful for headlines next year, for crying out loud?  Can we ever find a more
objective discussion from this corner of Catholicism, or is it always going to be
the same-old same-old!?"

Fr. Gruner isn't trying to impress visionaries or sensationalism seekers.  He's an
honest priest with an honest mission, and he does not pretend to be something
he isn't.  But he's not getting any younger and I have no idea who there could
be to fill his shoes.  But there is no shortage of those who are tickled pink at
the prospect of there being nobody.  One of them is the devil.

And as for Pope Francis (a.k.a. "Bergoglio"), what if Our Lady wants to make
him into something that is currently is not?  Will that be okay with you?  

Maybe she had best ask your permission first.  Send her a memo.

I am perhaps for familiar with Fr. Gruner's apostolate than you, and I understand the necessity of repeating a message, the message of Fatima in this case. However, that is not what I take issue with. The issue is the ability of those involved to recognize the situation, ask the hard questions, and the ability to face the truth. To call Mr. Bergoglio a "Marian Pope" while his record shows that he is more dedicated to his "special friends" than the Mother of God, probably makes better TV than stating the truth about the man. They were basically talking about him in a conservative light, never stopping for a moment to consider that he is an obstacle to the goal of the Fatima Center's apostolate.

Who are you to presume that Our Lady is using Mr. Bergoglio in any manner? Or that Fr. Gruner, as mucch good as he does, is actually following the right course, the one that Our Lady wants from him? While I admire his dedication, we just don't know either way.

Get a clue, Mabel......Saint Peter himself was not a great guy at one point in his earthly life...Who are YOU to be judge of anyone? Anyways, this pope asked for our prayers....Our Lady TOLD us to pray for the pope.......but you refer to him as "mister".....shameful!!!

I'm not judging Mr. Bergoglio in light of St. Peter or his soul, I am accepting or rejecting his claim to the papacy by his actions and words. It isn't shameful, it's truthful. And truthfully, I pray for a holy pope and the Church each day. I don't advocate fawning over the new guy but rather letting him prove himself and looking into his past actions to understand him and what he means.

You can just go on pretending to be in union with these jokers in Rome, I have no doubt of Fr. Gruner's Catholicity or many his colleagues, but the reality is that Catholics who hold the Faith have nothing in common with the usurpers. Some people want to pretend we are living under normal circuмstances because it makes them feel holy, loyal, secure, or whatever--but the reality is that we don't live under a normal situation in the Church and we can't look at it through rose-colored glasses, reality seems harsh when you've deluded yourself for so long.