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Family, Fatherhood, Faith? Did America Invent a New Way?
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2012, 03:05:09 PM »
Absolutely.  I have written about this many times on the site -- America is built on the Protestant work ethic, not on the Catholic work ethic, which makes time for spiritual development and family life.  The Protestant work ethic takes this virtue of working, and makes a religion itself out of it.  Eventually, money itself becomes the god of these people.  Just look at the Purpose-Driven Life and you will see exactly what I mean.  

America is a total reversion of Catholic European values.  There a kid lives at home until he's married, sometimes until he's 40.  Here you have to fend for yourself at 18.  This puts such fear and overdriven money-obsession into people that it's no wonder they become conscienceless, lying and cheating drones in order to get by.  It's a jungle, a rat race, not a civilization.  

But the Catholics, growing up in this Protestant culture have embraced it.  American Catholics tend to be VERY Protestant, very Puritanical.  I have a friend, God love him, who made his daughter go get a job when she was a young girl.  Why?  If they have a farm, sure, she should help out, but why should a young girl be thrust out into the world to work?  It's just taking jobs away from men, and imperilling her soul.  This is so obvious but people here don't see it.  The Protestants have created a nation of maniacal speed freaks who live at an exaggerated pace, pop antidepressants, get in massive debt to keep up with the neighbors, work five jobs, never take a chance to breathe, and then hurl themselves off buildings when it all falls apart.  The pace of life in America is outright SICK.  I felt this even before I was Catholic, it's why I had no inclination to work.  

I know one family whose husband can never get a job, and to keep up their lifestyle, the wife gives tennis instructions for 16 hours a day or something -- her face looks like an old shoe, it's so wrinkly from being in the sun constantly.  That to me is the perfect statement about American desperation to keep up these useless standards of living.

Family, Fatherhood, Faith? Did America Invent a New Way?
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2012, 04:54:04 PM »
Quote from: Raoul76
Absolutely.  I have written about this many times on the site -- America is built on the Protestant work ethic, not on the Catholic work ethic, which makes time for spiritual development and family life.  The Protestant work ethic takes this virtue of working, and makes a religion itself out of it.  Eventually, money itself becomes the god of these people.  Just look at the Purpose-Driven Life and you will see exactly what I mean.  

America is a total reversion of Catholic European values.  There a kid lives at home until he's married, sometimes until he's 40.  Here you have to fend for yourself at 18.  This puts such fear and overdriven money-obsession into people that it's no wonder they become conscienceless, lying and cheating drones in order to get by.  It's a jungle, a rat race, not a civilization.  

But the Catholics, growing up in this Protestant culture have embraced it.  American Catholics tend to be VERY Protestant, very Puritanical.  I have a friend, God love him, who made his daughter go get a job when she was a young girl.  Why?  If they have a farm, sure, she should help out, but why should a young girl be thrust out into the world to work?  It's just taking jobs away from men, and imperilling her soul.  This is so obvious but people here don't see it.  The Protestants have created a nation of maniacal speed freaks who live at an exaggerated pace, pop antidepressants, get in massive debt to keep up with the neighbors, work five jobs, never take a chance to breathe, and then hurl themselves off buildings when it all falls apart.  The pace of life in America is outright SICK.  I felt this even before I was Catholic, it's why I had no inclination to work.  

I know one family whose husband can never get a job, and to keep up their lifestyle, the wife gives tennis instructions for 16 hours a day or something -- her face looks like an old shoe, it's so wrinkly from being in the sun constantly.  That to me is the perfect statement about American desperation to keep up these useless standards of living.


I guess you have a point there, in regards to mainline protestant, but I'm not sure that describes the rest of them, particularly if you take into account, The South is sort of conquered territory.  Also, it seems to me that Jews are culturally dominant in America, not Protestants and I've heard that goes back to the early 1970s.  


Family, Fatherhood, Faith? Did America Invent a New Way?
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2012, 05:01:16 PM »
Quote from: sedetrad
Heh! When the Romans conquered the gauls, they practiced a form of PC behavior amongst their own people to speed up the assimilation process. The average roman citizens thought the Gauls were uncouth barbarians and didn't want them in their cities, but the ruling class did.

Check out this link:

http://www.culturewars.com/CultureWars/Archives/cw_recent/ethniccleansing.html

E. Michael Jones, Ph.D. discusses the deliberate destruction of ethnic Catholic neighborhoods and how it was accomplished by the ruling W.A.S.P elite of the US.


I'll have to read that article.   Amazing how he mixes Samson and Sade into that article!  :chef:

Family, Fatherhood, Faith? Did America Invent a New Way?
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2012, 06:05:35 PM »
what about Quebec and the Deep South. Love Alabama a poster here once brought up a good point on whether the South has embraced this work ethic.


but anyway you are so true.

Family, Fatherhood, Faith? Did America Invent a New Way?
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2012, 06:17:43 PM »
Quote from: Raoul76
Absolutely.  I have written about this many times on the site -- America is built on the Protestant work ethic, not on the Catholic work ethic, which makes time for spiritual development and family life.  The Protestant work ethic takes this virtue of working, and makes a religion itself out of it.  Eventually, money itself becomes the god of these people.  Just look at the Purpose-Driven Life and you will see exactly what I mean.  

America is a total reversion of Catholic European values.  There a kid lives at home until he's married, sometimes until he's 40.  Here you have to fend for yourself at 18.  This puts such fear and overdriven money-obsession into people that it's no wonder they become conscienceless, lying and cheating drones in order to get by.  It's a jungle, a rat race, not a civilization.  

But the Catholics, growing up in this Protestant culture have embraced it.  American Catholics tend to be VERY Protestant, very Puritanical.  I have a friend, God love him, who made his daughter go get a job when she was a young girl.  Why?  If they have a farm, sure, she should help out, but why should a young girl be thrust out into the world to work?  It's just taking jobs away from men, and imperilling her soul.  This is so obvious but people here don't see it.  The Protestants have created a nation of maniacal speed freaks who live at an exaggerated pace, pop antidepressants, get in massive debt to keep up with the neighbors, work five jobs, never take a chance to breathe, and then hurl themselves off buildings when it all falls apart.  The pace of life in America is outright SICK.  I felt this even before I was Catholic, it's why I had no inclination to work.  

I know one family whose husband can never get a job, and to keep up their lifestyle, the wife gives tennis instructions for 16 hours a day or something -- her face looks like an old shoe, it's so wrinkly from being in the sun constantly.  That to me is the perfect statement about American desperation to keep up these useless standards of living.


 First what you said is so true. I have relatives in Alabama who are OBSESSED with money.It is all WORK WORK WORK. I have been told to leave the home by my protestant relatives since I am 19 years old. My family is traditionalist and my family does not embrace that Protestant ethic. My relatives have tried to make me leave against my wishes.

 They talk about CHARITY CHARITY but they do not think about the soul.

 You stated in your post what my father has been saying. He had to lay the law down and tell them to butt out of our familiy's life.

You can't worship God and money at the same time.