Author Topic: Fake (Diabolical?) Near Death Experience (Read 1561 times)

Ladislaus · « **on:** May 23, 2014, 01:34:50 PM »

I've always wondered about these so-called "near death" experiences, especially where Protestants meet Jesus who of course makes no mention that they need to convert to the True Church.

Here's a doozy which just proves that a lot of these are fake. Could many of these just be a dream or hallucination? Could they be diabolical in origin?

http://www.spiritdaily.com/knightneardeath.htm

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"All of sudden two persons come from this light. I was like, okay. They came closer and closer and closer until they were right in front of me. You can guess who one of them was. One was Jesus Christ. Jesus didn't say anything at first. He showed me His Hands that they crucified, His feet, His side, the holes, and then He spoke to me. He said, 'Patrick, we're not ready for you yet.' I said, 'No?' He said, 'I'm going to bring you back to earth, back to life, but you have to do Me a favor.' I thought, 'Gee, Jesus wants me to do Him a favor.' He said, 'You tell everybody you know and everybody you don't know that there's an awesome Heaven waiting for them when they die.' He said, 'Second part: tell them there's a Jesus Who loves them unconditionally no matter what they've done. I love them with an unconditional love, but make them believe.'"

The Lord (allegedly) "wasn't light-skinned, and wasn't dark-skinned, He was a cross between everybody -- He was more like a person who had laid out in the sun and got a tan, brilliant radiant gold. He had hair about down to here [indicating below his shoulders] and He was about 6'1" and He was super-cool, with a sense of humor. He just put my life and my mind at total ease. I don't have to worry about anything anymore. He had the most awesome brown eyes, almost piercing, but He looked right at me. That was when He said, 'Patrick, we're not ready for you yet.'" It is Patrick's way of recounting it, for our reckoning. As far as his Dad:

"He died thirteen years ago and he was 85 when he died," says the Knight. "Now up in Heaven he's 45, because you can pick your own age up there. Suddenly, I'm 48 and older than my dad! How does that work?! He said, Patrick, two things, actually three: do yourself a favor: get yourself in better shape, you're a little large, and just listen to what Jesus told you. You're doing a great job and I see it every day. Just remember what Jesus told you. We'll see you in forty or fifty years.'

"Just like that they were gone."

No mention of sin or the possibility of damnation, just "I love you no matter what; there's an awesome heaven waiting for everyone."

All this nonsense about "unconditional" love, encouraging people to remain in sin ... along the lines of the obviously false Divine Mercy devotion.

soulguard · « **Reply #1 on:** May 23, 2014, 03:00:17 PM »

"He said, 'You tell everybody you know and everybody you don't know that there's an awesome Heaven waiting for them when they die.' "

LoL

:ape:

Marlelar · « **Reply #2 on:** May 23, 2014, 03:40:17 PM »

If that happened to me I would assume it was a demon impersonating Jesus in order to convince me to spread those lies. How convenient to be able to go to heaven regardless of behavior here on earth. Certainly not a biblical message by any stretch.

Marsha

MyrnaM · « **Reply #3 on:** May 23, 2014, 04:04:49 PM »

I have thought of these stories also, and made up my mind I will not judge the soul of anyone, but I do feel that when a person who is on the wrong path and will eventually be damned. On their death God shows the person a little bit of what he has/will lose. Think about it, these people that come back were never judged, they just saw perhaps a bit of heaven.

It doesn't seem Just that God would take a few people here and dare and tell them all about what to do to save their soul, He has given a Church for that. "Seek and you will find." Again, I have never heard of any near death experience where the person was being judged by Jesus and lived to tell about it.

Sometime you will read where a person sees his/her life whizz by then they come back a changed person, searching at times for that void, that we all experience one time or another. God might have given them a second chance, perhaps through the prayers of another.

Yet I do think there is a :devil2: influence, especially when I will read where a movie star recently died and comes back to a dear friend and says, "I'm okay." No mention of Purgatory, no mention of asking for prayers, just "I'm okay."

True Story: Many years ago, I had a dear friend who was married to an agnostic. I introduced her to CMRI, she was attending the novus ordo, as I was also a short time before this. For several years she followed tradition, wore her scapular faithfully, but moved to another state and we lost touch.

Years later I heard from her daughter she passed away, however I was told she died with her scapular on, although her daughter confessed to me that her mother, my friend was confused about tradition/novus ordo. Got the feeling when she moved she went back to her neighborhood church.

After a few more years passed her daughter called me quite upset, it seems my friend's agnostic husband called his step daughter and told her about an experience he had that night. His wife appeared to him and begged him to pray for her. He got out of bed and knelt on the floor while she was still there begging him for prayers and telling over and over how cold she was, she was so cold. She begged him for prayers, and he stayed on the floor kneeling afraid to look up, so afraid was he, he said. He prayed till morning, then called the daughter, and she called me. I told her I would have a Mass offered and gave her the address of CMRI, to also have continued Masses offered.

Her dad, spoke to some friends of this, and they told him to get rid of all her possessions he still had, and so he did.

I never heard back.

TKGS · « **Reply #4 on:** May 23, 2014, 05:32:03 PM »

Quote from: MyrnaM

Her dad, spoke to some friends of this, and they told him to get rid of all her possessions he still had, and so he did.

I never heard back.

How sad!