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Offline Cantarella

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Facts About the Home at Tuam
« on: June 06, 2014, 08:06:34 PM »
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  • Some Facts About the Home at Tuam (Provided by Irish Contacts in the Diocese of Galway)

     1.) It is not a septic tank, but a mass grave built during World War II

     2.) The Home was open for about 35 years and served 5,000 women during wartime.

     3.) Most of the children in the graves died during a tuberculosis outbreak in Ireland during the war.

     4.) The government was heavily rationing food and medicine. What was scarce before was now almost utterly unavailable.

     5.) The Diocese of Galway - the one running the Home at Tuam - never hid anything. All docuмents were handed over to the British government

     6.) The docuмents are accurate, as they are now the ones being used to confirm the number of dead in the mass grave.

     7.) The sisters intended to build a proper cemetery for the dead long before the outbreak.

     8.) They had no land on which to build said cemetery, nor the money to purchase any from neighbors.

     9.) The Home closed in 1961.

     10.) The Diocese had long-term plans to have a proper memorial service for the dead children, and to move the bodies to an appropriate graveyard.

     11.) The Irish Government has been stubborn about giving the Diocese permits to build the graveyard, not helped by the fact that suburban development is being zoned for and begun around and near Tuam, and the government is hesitant to give up any of that land for a graveyard - presumably because it would drive down property values.

     12.) There are many mass graves like this one all over Ireland from the tuberculosis outbreak and the potato famine. This one was accidentally discovered by locals moving into the new suburban area and there was a mild amount of hysteria over it.

    The media campaign going on among a lot of editors, dressing this up like some great atrocity, are distorting the facts to cause a media circus aimed at defaming the already crippled Church of Ireland. It's undoubted bad things went on at the Home, and the Victorian-Era principles which governed its use and even its construction (Victorian morality never really fell out of favor until after the 1920s) were undoubtedly morally wrong and opposed to Catholic teaching. However, the nuns were not these abusive monsters who's neglect was killing hundreds of children, like it's being dressed up to be. Granted, the Home wasn't a pleasant place and things were done that shouldn't have been - no one in Galway is denying that. But they're not about to be dragged through the streets by editorial lynch-mobs for crimes they didn't commit.
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    Facts About the Home at Tuam
    « Reply #1 on: June 06, 2014, 09:36:34 PM »
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  • Thank you for sharing this.


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    « Reply #2 on: June 06, 2014, 10:41:55 PM »
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  • Quote from: Cantarella
    Some Facts About the Home at Tuam (Provided by Irish Contacts in the Diocese of Galway)

     1.) It is not a septic tank, but a mass grave built during World War II

     2.) The Home was open for about 35 years and served 5,000 women during wartime.

     3.) Most of the children in the graves died during a tuberculosis outbreak in Ireland during the war.

     4.) The government was heavily rationing food and medicine. What was scarce before was now almost utterly unavailable.

     5.) The Diocese of Galway - the one running the Home at Tuam - never hid anything. All docuмents were handed over to the British government

     6.) The docuмents are accurate, as they are now the ones being used to confirm the number of dead in the mass grave.

     7.) The sisters intended to build a proper cemetery for the dead long before the outbreak.

     8.) They had no land on which to build said cemetery, nor the money to purchase any from neighbors.

     9.) The Home closed in 1961.

     10.) The Diocese had long-term plans to have a proper memorial service for the dead children, and to move the bodies to an appropriate graveyard.

     11.) The Irish Government has been stubborn about giving the Diocese permits to build the graveyard, not helped by the fact that suburban development is being zoned for and begun around and near Tuam, and the government is hesitant to give up any of that land for a graveyard - presumably because it would drive down property values.

     12.) There are many mass graves like this one all over Ireland from the tuberculosis outbreak and the potato famine. This one was accidentally discovered by locals moving into the new suburban area and there was a mild amount of hysteria over it.

    The media campaign going on among a lot of editors, dressing this up like some great atrocity, are distorting the facts to cause a media circus aimed at defaming the already crippled Church of Ireland. It's undoubted bad things went on at the Home, and the Victorian-Era principles which governed its use and even its construction (Victorian morality never really fell out of favor until after the 1920s) were undoubtedly morally wrong and opposed to Catholic teaching. However, the nuns were not these abusive monsters who's neglect was killing hundreds of children, like it's being dressed up to be. Granted, the Home wasn't a pleasant place and things were done that shouldn't have been - no one in Galway is denying that. But they're not about to be dragged through the streets by editorial lynch-mobs for crimes they didn't commit.


    May I share this with folks Cantarella?
    Sincerely,

    Shin

    'Flores apparuerunt in terra nostra. . . Fulcite me floribus.' (The flowers appear on the earth. . . stay me up with flowers. Sg 2:12,5)'-

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    « Reply #3 on: June 07, 2014, 03:49:55 AM »
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  • Thank you so much Cantarella.

    Just correcting a little typo:
    a media circus aimed at defaming the already crippled Church of Ireland.

    should read:
    a media circus aimed at defaming the already crippled Church in Ireland.

    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    « Reply #4 on: June 07, 2014, 04:32:23 AM »
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  • thank you cantarella, for that op.we here in Ireland, are battle weary, thats true. we are subjected to constant barrages of Church bashing, so if we sometimes appear despondent, and lacking courage, just put it down to fatique. its difficult to do battle, when leadership is lacking, and Ireland has been sorely lacking leaders for many long years. but with the Grace of God, we will pick ourselves up again, in the hope that is our Faith,  that Faith that has overcome the world.


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    « Reply #5 on: June 07, 2014, 06:17:27 AM »
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  • Let us pray for the Church in Ireland. We have so much to thank the Irish for. We should pay the debt we owe. :pray:
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    « Reply #6 on: June 07, 2014, 06:33:00 AM »
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  • This is excellent, thank you so very much. Once again the truth shines, but who will make reparation for all the calumnies of these days? Do yo have the source of this, please? God bless!
    O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
    Praised be Jesus ad Mary!

    "Is minic a gheibhean beal oscailt diog dunta"

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    « Reply #7 on: June 07, 2014, 11:17:05 AM »
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  • add to that

    Irish Times newspaper which is bitter anti catholic printed a story today where Ms Corless who researched the deaths said ' I never said they were dumped' and also the young boy who at 10 yrs old along with a friend discovered the grave originally said ' there was not 800 bodies more like 20'!!!


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    « Reply #8 on: June 07, 2014, 03:04:43 PM »
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  • Quote from: stbrighidswell
    add to that

    Irish Times newspaper which is bitter anti catholic printed a story today where Ms Corless who researched the deaths said ' I never said they were dumped' and also the young boy who at 10 yrs old along with a friend discovered the grave originally said ' there was not 800 bodies more like 20'!!!


    Yep - in London "Daily Telegraph" columns too today!
    I think I read it in 'comments' section

    Trouble is the mongol - Jєωs and satanists ensured the first totally misleading write up was 'duplicated' around the World double quick!

    Even in todays World online paper "Global Post"

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    « Reply #9 on: June 07, 2014, 03:13:24 PM »
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    Let us pray for the Church in Ireland. We have so much to thank the Irish for. We should pay the debt we owe. :pray:


    Send us more SSPX priests. We only have 4 or 5.

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    « Reply #10 on: June 07, 2014, 05:19:35 PM »
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  • Quote from: soulguard
    Quote from: Nadir
    Let us pray for the Church in Ireland. We have so much to thank the Irish for. We should pay the debt we owe. :pray:


    Send us more SSPX priests. We only have 4 or 5.


    Sorry Soul! I have no weight to pull with SSPX :laugh2:
    We are even worse off than you here - big coutry small population. But I can still pray for faith-full priests.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.


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    « Reply #11 on: June 09, 2014, 04:58:18 AM »
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    « Reply #12 on: June 19, 2014, 04:50:48 AM »
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  • The Irish Archdiocese of Tuam has revealed that all of the children born out of wedlock at a "mother and child" home in Galway were baptized, contrary to reports that had circulated alleging that the children were buried without benefit of the sacraments.

    Early reports about the Church-run institution in Galway had suggested that the bodies of nearly 800 children were discarded. In fact they were buried, and archdiocesan records prove that they were baptized. The impoverished institution did have a very high rate of mortality among infants, reflecting the generally high rate in all of Ireland during the early 20th century.




    http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=21747