Neil I did watch the video about the occupiers and I noticed something similar in another city. I was close to them in one city and for one thing they seemed to lack the drive that most people in a protest have - especially that a men in their early twenties. I was in a fast food place and could over hear them and it was just like "check the website" there was just no drive or discussion like you would expect. I've protested with people in their eighties outside an abortion clinic that had more drive. Second thing is I was there in the area when it was shut down and it just happened without any resistance. So they were going to camp out all that time in the cold, just to say OK let's pack up and go when the mayor said enough?