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Evil plan to dissolve all races
« on: October 14, 2007, 11:21:03 PM »
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  • How evil is it that They have conspired to dissolve all cultures and races into a big "melting pot"?

    I think the differences in the races are beautiful, and a thing of God. God, Who makes every man different, certainly made the races to have different traits, quirks, talents, etc. Let's face it, it's what makes life interesting!

    How boring would a symphony be if it was made up of 100% clarinets?  If man can put dozens of DIFFERENT instruments together to create a beautiful symphony orchestra, why shouldn't God be able to create dozens of different races to create a harmonious world order under One True Faith?

    Just like an orchestra has an instrument that, objectively speaking, has the GREATEST AMOUNT OF BASS, so also there might be a race that has more intelligence than any other, or depth of thought, or artistic ability, etc.

    If that were true, would you try to deny it, or would you glorify God?

    Anyhow, the fact that people no longer have a sense of "belonging" to a race has really hollowed a lot of people out. I think it neuters them (to a certain extent) from being a fighting force against Them.

    Perhaps that's why the media, public schools, etc. push "diversity" and "tolerance" so much. They want us to give up our differences, under the appearance of embracing diversity!  The devil is very clever, and so are his henchmen.

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    Evil plan to dissolve all races
    « Reply #1 on: October 15, 2007, 11:48:29 AM »
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  • How do you feel about the fact that a large number of traditional Catholic families are of mixed race?


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    « Reply #2 on: October 15, 2007, 12:01:35 PM »
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  • Well, the Catholic Faith is the most important, and it is something to "belong to" as well.

    Remember, the Bad Guys are trying to dissolve any institution not of their own making: religion, nationality, race, and family.

    The more of those you can have a SOLID IDENTITY in, the better. All of them are human, and psychologically healthy for a person to enjoy and be proud of.

    For instance, I am proud of my family. I am also proud of the (extended) family I came from.

    I'm also proud to be of (mostly) Germanic descent. I'm proud to be Catholic. And I love and pray for my country, America. I'm sad about what she's doing overseas, I am against the errors she has espoused (religious liberty, etc.) but right now I prefer to stay here whatever happens.

    By "proud" I refer to the good kind, as in "take pride in one's work", so I'm not referring to the VICE called "pride" here.

    Another thing to keep in mind -- when all four identity groups (or most of them) are taken from a youth, it makes him/her want to join a gang -- because the fact is that being part of a bigger family is part of human nature. You can't change human nature.

    I don't have enough time to answer your question fully right now, but I'll add more later.

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    « Reply #3 on: October 15, 2007, 12:12:44 PM »
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  • Well, I'm as proud as anyone about my northern European ethnicity and heritage, and if I had children, I'd certainly want them to acknowledge and embrace that heritage. But to be honest, I'm not really that concerned with 'marrying within my race' so much as finding a good Catholic girl. I agree that marrying within one's race is natural and good, but just because a woman is black or Asian and a good Catholic, it won't make me say, "hmm..well, she is a good Catholic and would make a great housewife...but oh, she's black (or Latino or whatever), so no can do.."

    For me, culture is a much greater barrier than race, and although the two tend to go together, it's not always the case.
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    « Reply #4 on: October 15, 2007, 12:24:38 PM »
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  • Actually, that's a good point -- "culture" vs. "race".

    Normally, they are one and the same. An ethnically polish man will normally have polish culture. But today, with airplanes and a global economy, you could be completely Swedish and yet move to Spain when you were young, because of business opportunities there. So you'd have a lot of Spanish customs in you, and yet be 100% Swedish as far as blood goes.

    I also agree (and re-iterate) that the Faith is far more important than race, however powerful an institution race might be.

    For instance, you could be of a very talented race, but because you are not Catholic you will not enjoy the Church's guidance, and thus fall into vice (which always saps your intellect, freedom, etc.)
    How many brilliant people waste their lives trying to create life, invent a time machine, prove Evolution, etc.?

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    « Reply #5 on: October 15, 2007, 01:28:13 PM »
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  • Quote from: ChantCd
    Just like an orchestra has an instrument that, objectively speaking, has the GREATEST AMOUNT OF BASS, so also there might be a race that has more intelligence than any other, or artistic ability, etc.

    If that were true, would you try to deny it, or would you glorify God?


    Race supremacy ?  Could you clarify please.


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    « Reply #6 on: October 15, 2007, 01:36:17 PM »
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  • Quote from: Vandaler
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    Just like an orchestra has an instrument that, objectively speaking, has the GREATEST AMOUNT OF BASS, so also there might be a race that has more intelligence than any other, or artistic ability, etc.

    If that were true, would you try to deny it, or would you glorify God?


    Race supremacy ?  Could you clarify please.



     I think he is just saying that all races are beautiful and should be appreciated for their differences. However, he has also stated that Faith is more important, and never hinted that one race was better than the other. He is certainly not advocating Race supremecy in any regard.

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    « Reply #7 on: October 15, 2007, 01:42:05 PM »
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  • Which instrument in the orchestra is "the best"? There really isn't a "best overall" -- the violin excels in one area, the flute excels in another, the oboe in another, the drum does in yet another --

    Some instruments are "humbler" than others, but all are expected to create music according to their kind -- and if they only play sour notes (=not doing God's will) they will be cast into the furnace.

    Claiming all instruments have equal bass, tone, resonance, or that they all sound the same is simply foolish.

    Does the Cello get all happy because it seems to dominate the orchestra's sound?  No, because it had better play good music or it will join the bad clarinets, trumpets, and kazoos in the furnace. And once you are in the furnace, it matters not how objectively "impressive" your sound was.

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    « Reply #8 on: October 15, 2007, 01:50:35 PM »
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  • No one (at least here) would support the KKK, the nαzιs, the Black Panthers, La Raza, etc. Those groups are overtly "racist".

    But let's be precise here in our rejection of racism -- do we want to dissolve all races and give up our identity? Or do we just want to reject hatred of another human being based on his race?

    It always behooves us to think, be rational, and to distinguish.

    People today have various "hotwords" or "buttons" that, when pressed, elicit a purely emotional reaction (this is obviously the media's doing). The word "race" is one of those. People tend to want to ignore it altogether, as if it's a bad thing.

    But we should not be at one extreme OR the other. We should want the truth, and the correct position as laid out by the Catholic Church. Because if we're not careful, we might otherwise "throw out the baby with the bath water".

    I'll give you another analogy -- people talk about how greedy and evil Capitalism is, and offer Communism as the alternative. But how about having private property AND a sense of moral responsibility and charity? The Church's solution is neither greedy "free-market" money-is-the-only-goal Capitalism, nor the unnatural denies-man's-basic-right-to-private-property communism.

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    « Reply #9 on: October 15, 2007, 02:01:16 PM »
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  • Thank you for clarifying your thoughts.

    Coming from Quebec, a small nation/province of French speaking folks, we must indeed defend our roots and culture.  I like you, am very proud of of Quebec as a Nation and being part of it. Keeping our identity intact is a struggle and I agree with defending such collective heritage.

    That being said, I abhor the notion that certain races are more intelligent then others.  If anything, if you really want to get down to it, I'd give a certain edge to Asians, but I thinks it's rooted in their cultural work ethics. Not in race superiority.

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    « Reply #10 on: October 15, 2007, 02:09:24 PM »
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  • See, the problem is that you are looking at the possibility of "one master race".  That is not what I'm advocating or talking about.

    In other words, I gave one example "more intelligent" -- perhaps that is too broad. There are actually dozens if not hundreds of different talents, all of which reside in the brain.  So I guess it's my fault for using that term. I was trying to come up with individual traits that could distinguish one race from another (again, very broadly speaking, since individuals are also given talents)

    To sum it up again, it's not about "one race is superior" but rather if there were 100 races, and they were ranked from "greatest" to "least" on several different skills/talents, the list for each talent would probably look different from the others.

    And it's not even just about talents, either -- but neutral "tendencies" and choices. Let's face it -- if all races were the same, then the cultures that grew up organically in the hundreds of different countries would all be about the same. But we all know that Italy is NOT England is NOT India is NOT the Sudan (etc).

    Yes, I'm sure that climate, terrain, native animals, etc. enter into the equation, but we all know it's more than that.


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    « Reply #11 on: October 15, 2007, 02:15:25 PM »
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    That being said, I abhor the notion that certain races are more intelligent then others.  If anything, if you really want to get down to it, I'd give a certain edge to Asians, but I thinks it's rooted in their cultural work ethics. Not in race superiority.


    Vandaler, I thought you were misunderstanding me, and I now I KNOW you are.

    Your sentence above "If anything, I'd give the edge to the Asians" implies that you think I'd disagree with you. Did I suggest that any race was "the best" or name names in any way?

    I'm having a high-level philosophical discussion here about the question of race. I think a topic so fundamental to man's existence is worthy of conversation. Especially since the enemies of God are trying to enslave all of mankind in One World Government, and dissolution of national identities is one of the ways they're going about it.

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    « Reply #12 on: October 15, 2007, 02:21:05 PM »
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  • Again, thanks for clarifying what can easily be misconstrued by others.

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    Yes, I'm sure that climate, terrain, native animals, etc. enter into the equation, but we all know it's more than that.


    It's a whole lot more then that, but I do not believe one second that genetics plays a significant role.  

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    « Reply #13 on: October 15, 2007, 02:23:51 PM »
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    Vandaler, I thought you were misunderstanding me, and I now I KNOW you are.

    Your sentence above "If anything, I'd give the edge to the Asians" implies that you think I'd disagree with you. Did I suggest that any race was "the best" or name names in any way?


    I did indeed craft my sentence in the form of a test to you and I'm quite pleased with your answer.

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    « Reply #14 on: October 16, 2007, 10:05:39 AM »
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  • I think the important thing is to recognize that there are indeed differences in race, rather than to deny them. I always find it funny how some liberals speak of "the human race" as a single race, and then turn around and preach that we shouldn't discriminate against people of a different race. Huh? I thought you said there was only one race...
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