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Re: Baal's "shaft"?/Re: Egyptian Obelisk’s???
« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2019, 06:32:39 PM »
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  • Ummm, wink, wink--nudge, nudge?  I'm linguistically unconvinced.

    Altho' "Baal" «ב-ע-ל» (B-ʕ-L) [#] is a conventional translation of the name of a Phoenician deity (esp. in Tyre), that's arguably glorified from its more mundane meanings "lord",  "master",  "owner",  "creditor",  and even "husband".

    English "obelisk" arrived ultimately from Greek "obeliskos": A diminutive of "obelos", the latter meaning a "pointed pillar".

    There seems to be no match when working back in Biblical Hebrew [*] from the meaning claimed by Burns.  E.g., «י-ח-ם» (Y-Ch-M) means not only "to be hot",  but also "to conceive",  and to perform the required generative act.  But I haven't yet found an entry for the anatomical noun.

    And the expected Semitic prefix «ל» (L), which signifies possession, as in the Latin genitive case (and reportedly the Greek dative case), thus expecting the construction "L'Baal", but it's conspicuously absent.

    I suppose I should defer judgment until I can access the document cited.  So thanks to ‘cassini’ for the exact citation.  Should I expect to find the cited document at my local metropolitan library?  Documents physically printed on paper,in a bricks-&-mortar library": How quaint!

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    Note *: Gen.30:41 & 31:10, as the written record of Hebrew had survived to the time of the scholar Gesenius (fl. 1810--1842).  Which left roughly 14 centuries for important writings in & about Hebrew to have disappeared since St. Jerome had access to the documents that he used for writing the Biblia Vulgata.

    Note #: The symbol ‘ʕ’ is from linguistics, and herein indicates the guttural consonant ‘ain’,  which is harsher (or stronger) than the mere glottal stop that can be heard in Cockney English.  It's been compared to the sound produced by a victim being strangled, and can be audibly unpleasant to native speakers of English when they're confronted with the sounds of native Arabic.
    I figured the whole spiel about obelisks being representative of human genitalia was a load of crock, but this about proves it. 

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    Stop the hijacking!/Re: Egyptian Obelisk’s???
    « Reply #31 on: July 18, 2019, 08:00:58 PM »
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  • Climax, you're a newbie here, and late in the game on this forum.

    Uh, huh.  And you, ‘Incredulous’,  you're far from being a newbie here, having leveraged an excess of postings (4641 as of July 16) into CathInfo's exalted rank "hero member".


    Some samplings on him are below, for your reading enjoyment :jester:

    No, there's no "reading enjoyment" at all.

    You still can't seem to resist hijacking a topic that's plenty interesting on its own merits.  Your 1 Reply #25 (July 15, 2019, 22:32:24) consumed 1/2 the space on its page, but it's easy to verify that in all that space, you completely failed to mention the topic-Subject word "obelisk".

    So yet another of your hijackings indulged in reader-hostile habits that readers of CathInfo are accustomed to seeing from you, notably obnoxiously oversized text, which doesn't make your posting any more true nor trustworthy.

    Hey  How's 'bout you, ‘Incredulous’, find those old CathInfo postings that attack the reputation of Michael Hoffman, whether fairly or unfairly, then create an original posting that contains links to the most credible of the attacks, and petition ‘Matthew’ to ‘pin’ your new topic to 1 of his subforums?  So instead of arrogantly hijacking interesting topics, you could humbly submit a brief posting that mostly simply links to your (potentially) pinned topic?

    Then if you have nothing (more) to offer CathInfo readers about "obelisks", then just go away.


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    Re: Stop the hijacking!/Re: Egyptian Obelisk’s???
    « Reply #32 on: July 19, 2019, 11:25:15 PM »
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  • Uh, huh.  And you, ‘Incredulous’,  you're far from being a newbie here, having leveraged an excess of postings (4641 as of July 16) into CathInfo's exalted rank "hero member".

    No, there's no "reading enjoyment" at all.

    You still can't seem to resist hijacking a topic that's plenty interesting on its own merits.  Your 1 Reply #25 (July 15, 2019, 22:32:24) consumed 1/2 the space on its page, but it's easy to verify that in all that space, you completely failed to mention the topic-Subject word "obelisk".

    So yet another of your hijackings indulged in reader-hostile habits that readers of CathInfo are accustomed to seeing from you, notably obnoxiously oversized text, which doesn't make your posting any more true nor trustworthy.

    Hey  How's 'bout you, ‘Incredulous’, find those old CathInfo postings that attack the reputation of Michael Hoffman, whether fairly or unfairly, then create an original posting that contains links to the most credible of the attacks, and petition ‘Matthew’ to ‘pin’ your new topic to 1 of his subforums?  So instead of arrogantly hijacking interesting topics, you could humbly submit a brief posting that mostly simply links to your (potentially) pinned topic?

    Then if you have nothing (more) to offer CathInfo readers about "obelisks", then just go away.

    Gator,

     My apologies if you felt I hijacked the topic.  It was not my intent.  

    I felt it was important to enlighten Climax on the forum's history of the well documented Marrano ringer known as Michael A. Hoffman.

    I recall some time ago, you came on the forum to defend Art Bell, the late night, agent provocateur of jewish fantasies, theological myths and heresies.

    At that time, you seemed to need some guidance too  :farmer:


    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Baal's "shaft"?/Re: Egyptian Obelisk’s???
    « Reply #33 on: July 20, 2019, 12:28:08 PM »
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  • So an obvious erect penis (try the experiment for yourself if you need to) is a crock according to blind trads.  Why?  Because the largest of them all was imported by a pope and proudly stands erect in front of St. Peter's.  As I said, it should have been imported as the pile of rubble that it is. Then a few Franciscans should have been photographed staking a giant Crucifix at the top of the heap.  Then and only then should the Egyptian penis have anything to do with Christianity.  Forlorn you are about as smart as the penis statue.  
    Your mind's in the gutter. Are skyscrapers giant dicks too? Is holding a pen gay? 

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    Re: Baal's "shaft"?/Re: Egyptian Obelisk’s???
    « Reply #34 on: July 20, 2019, 10:34:27 PM »
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  • Only the ones designed as a phallus.  Same goes for the pen.  
    You should have been banned long ago. You are a troll and a pervert.


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    Re: Baal's "shaft"?/Re: Egyptian Obelisk’s???
    « Reply #35 on: July 21, 2019, 06:28:52 AM »
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  • Only the ones designed as a phallus.  Same goes for the pen.  
    Pens are cylinders tapered into a cone at the end. Even more phallic than these obelisks, which are tapered cuboids(if yours looks like that, see a doctor). So by your logic every pen is phallic and anyone who uses them must be gay. You could also work in some sensationalist false etymology like "Penis -> PEN!!!" as Cassini did for Obelisks. 

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    Re: Egyptian Obelisk’s???
    « Reply #36 on: July 21, 2019, 06:44:20 AM »
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    Why is the Washington monument a giant phallus?
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    Morris Kamelgarn, lives in Washington, DC (1985-present)
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    The Washington Monument is technically called an obelisk, and there may be a reason it looks the way it does. George Washington and many of the other founding fathers were Freemasons, a religion that goes back to ancient Egypt. The Egyptians had many gods, and one of them was Osirus who had a wife named Isis. The ancient Egyptians worshipped Isis because she had restored Osirus to life by putting him back together after he had been dismembered by his brother, Seth. The way they worshipped her was by building a pillar, or obelisk, which was meant to represent Osirus' penis, because that was the only part of Osirus that Isis had been unable to find. The shape of the Washington Monument might be a way to pay homage to this story. There are many other examples of the influence of Freemasonry on our nation, such as the way the city of Washington is laid out, and the presence of Masonic symbols on our money, such as the eye above the pyramid on the back of the dollar bill, so this isn't as far out as it sounds.

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    Re: Baal's "shaft"?/Re: Egyptian Obelisk’s???
    « Reply #37 on: July 21, 2019, 11:04:18 AM »
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  • Pens are cylinders tapered into a cone at the end. Even more phallic than these obelisks, which are tapered cuboids(if yours looks like that, see a doctor). So by your logic every pen is phallic and anyone who uses them must be gay. You could also work in some sensationalist false etymology like "Penis -> PEN!!!" as Cassini did for Obelisks.
    We get the point, but try to be less crude, remember that woman and children read this site too. 


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    Re: Baal's "shaft"?/Re: Egyptian Obelisk’s???
    « Reply #38 on: July 21, 2019, 12:06:35 PM »
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  • We get the point, but try to be less crude, remember that woman and children read this site too.
    When I made that post, his post was still undeleted and used the same term with much more descriptive writing, so I figured the damage was done. I apologise however, that shouldn't be an excuse for me to stoop to his level. 

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    Re: Stop the hijacking!/Re: Egyptian Obelisk’s???
    « Reply #39 on: July 21, 2019, 12:24:55 PM »
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  • So yet another of your hijackings indulged in reader-hostile habits that readers of CathInfo are accustomed to seeing from you, notably obnoxiously oversized text, which doesn't make your posting any more true nor trustworthy.

    Just to make a point here Alligator, but sometimes with me when you post normal writing it turns out HUGE and oversized. I suspect this is what happened when incredulous posted. Often wondered is it my computer or CIF website mechanisms.

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    Re: Stop the hijacking!/Re: Egyptian Obelisk’s???
    « Reply #40 on: July 21, 2019, 12:30:10 PM »
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  • Just to make a point here Alligator, but sometimes with me when you post normal writing it turns out HUGE and oversized. I suspect this is what happened when incredulous posted. Often wondered is it my computer or CIF website mechanisms.
    That happens when you copy-paste from articles. You have to manually resize it using the toolbar above the post-box. The second "A" button. 


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    Re: Egyptian Obelisk’s???
    « Reply #41 on: July 25, 2019, 11:32:50 PM »
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  • Church steeples and bell towers are also "phallic" . Should they be demolished?
    Christians who preach their doctrine with bitterness and sarcasm don't preach out of love for God or souls, but only to assert dominance over others; out of pride.

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    « Reply #42 on: July 26, 2019, 05:54:07 AM »
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  • Church steeples and bell towers are also "phallic" . Should they be demolished?

    I thought this thread was about ancient Egyptian Obelisks?

    To compare church steeples that are symbols rising to heaven of the faithful in union with God in heaven as "phallic" is as close to blasphemy as one can get.

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    Re: Egyptian Obelisk’s???
    « Reply #43 on: July 26, 2019, 05:57:01 AM »
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  • I thought this thread was about ancient Egyptian Obelisks?

    To compare church steeples that are symbols rising to heaven of the faithful in union with God in heaven as "phallic" is as close to blasphemy as one can get.
    I'm responding to comments above saying that obelisks are phallic and therefore wrong 
    Christians who preach their doctrine with bitterness and sarcasm don't preach out of love for God or souls, but only to assert dominance over others; out of pride.

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    « Reply #44 on: July 26, 2019, 07:04:00 PM »
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  • I thought this thread was about ancient Egyptian Obelisks?

    Indeed it is!

    Here's an entertaining Web page, with lots of photos, that's thus far survived the leftists at Wikipedia:

        <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_obelisks_in_Rome>.

    Its readers with good memories should be able to answer 2 trivia questions:

    •   Whence was originally taken "the largest standing ancient Egyptian obelisk in the world"?

    •   Where is the "[t]allest obelisk in Rome"?

     

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