Author Topic: E. Michael Jones take on Freemasons (Read 8083 times)

roscoe · « **Reply #10 on:** August 13, 2012, 10:59:51 AM »

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P.S. The historian Jones refers to is fully named Thomas Walsh, author of the book Philip II.

Better known as William Thomas Walsh.

It should be noted that William Thomas Walsh, perhaps the greatest Catholic historian in the English language of the Twentieth century, held the Templars to be innocent.

Could U pls provide a source for this info.

Belloc · « **Reply #11 on:** August 13, 2012, 11:12:00 AM »

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The Templars were most likely a very powerful Order that earned the ire of the Jews, and through various manipulations, got members of the Church itself to turn against them.

FROM WHAT I AM AND HAVE RAD, THEY LIKELY WERE SET UP BY THE KING OF FRANCE FOR MONETARY GAIN......

(oops, had on caps lock)

roscoe · « **Reply #12 on:** August 13, 2012, 11:25:22 AM »

There are 12 infallible Bulls condemning Templars which no Church Authority has ever even attempted to have repealed. V2 anti-church of course does not count.

Apparently there are some who think they tell the Church what to do. I highly doubt that WT Walsh defies the Authority of Pope Clement V( of pleasant memory) and I doubt that words of his will be found doing that.

Columba · « **Reply #13 on:** August 13, 2012, 12:07:08 PM »

Quote from: roscoe

There are 12 infallible Bulls condemning Templars which no Church Authority has ever even attempted to have repealed. V2 anti-church of course does not count.

Apparently there are some who think they tell the Church what to do. I highly doubt that WT Walsh defies the Authority of Pope Clement V( of pleasant memory) and I doubt that words of his will be found doing that.

I will look in my Walsh books and get back in a day or two with the source information.

Belloc · « **Reply #14 on:** August 13, 2012, 12:44:25 PM »

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There are 12 infallible Bulls condemning Templars which no Church Authority has ever even attempted to have repealed. V2 anti-church of course does not count.

Apparently there are some who think they tell the Church what to do. I highly doubt that WT Walsh defies the Authority of Pope Clement V( of pleasant memory) and I doubt that words of his will be found doing that.

I will look in my Walsh books and get back in a day or two with the source information.

actually, the Chinon parchement is felt to be authentic and if so, then yes, repealed.....

http://www.inrebus.com/chinon.php

Plus testimony of other Royals, nobles, clergy,etc.....mostly point to a weak, French influenced Pope and greedy Louis IV