Since many heresies are allowed in the conciliar sect, there are few dogmas. But there are a few things that must be believed in order to be a member in good standing in the conciliar sect. I can think of three:

1. There is salvation outside the Catholic Church.

2. 6 million Jєωs died in the h0Ɩ0cαųst, and many of these died in gas chambers.

3. Vatican 2 must be believed and all the other councils can be ignored.

Can you think of any other dogmas in the conciliar sect?

I forgot one

12. Using NFP is always good and never a sin.

More conciliar "dogmas" and other such new beliefs

15. Medjugorje is of "Mary" and the Charismatics are of the "Spirit".

16. The Novus Ordo is merely the latest version of the "Latin" Rite.

17. The Official Languages of the Church are Italian, Polish, Spanish, English and Hebrew.

18. Altar "girls" will increase vocations to the sisterhood.

19. Active participation of the laity at Mass is best done IN the sanctuary, you know, that sacred space near the table.

20. Saturday 4pm is actually Sunday.

21. Consecration is synonymous with entrustment. Also, the correct way to say "Russia" is either "those individuals and nations which particularly need to be thus entrusted and consecrated" or simply "the world".

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Well done...

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You left out the biggie:  

To deny the Principle of Non-Contradiction is quite normal and acceptable.

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Therefore, we have the "hermenuetic of continuity,"

The Syllabus of Errors teaches the same thing as the Counter-Syllabus, Vat.II;

Having "dogmas" is one and the same thing as having NO DOGMAS;

All Christians share in the Royal Priesthood of Baptism, and so there is
nothing special about an ordained priest -- nothing whatsoever;

But to be baptized is the same thing as to not be baptized, so it's not important;

Yes means no and no means yes (si si, no no -- out the window, you go!);

Believing in a Catholic God is the same thing as disbelieving in any God;

Grace is the same thing as disgrace;

Up is down and down is up;  heaven and hell are identical;

God, satan -- what's the difference?

Good and evil coexist in the same person at the same time, so get over it;

A beach ball and WYD T-shirt are perfectly appropriate items for the High Altar,
but placing a Buddha on the tabernacle is so 1986!

Adhering to Tradition is the same thing as making a 'deal' with modernist Rome;

Hiding your AFD for a year is the same thing as "withdrawing" it;

The Rosary crusade intention for the Collegial Consecration of Russia to the
Immaculate Heart of Mary by the Pope and all the Bishops of the world is
the same thing as having the intention of "freeing" the Canonized Traditional
Latin Mass, even though it was never abrogated;

Marian Devotion and contempt for the Message of Fatima are compatible twins.

Saying (incorrectly) that the Newmass was "legitimately promulgated" is the
same thing as saying (correctly) that the Newmass was never promulgated at all;

Denouncing Modernism is the same thing as not denouncing Modernism;

Keeping the Commandments of God is the same thing as breaking them;

And last but not least, love of God and hatred of God are one and the same thing.



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First, in regards to the above posts, what is "AFD"?  

Second, I think all of the above can be summed up in one "dogmatic statement":

Whatever Conciliar popes, bishops, priests, theologians, Directors of Religious Education, liturgists, and anyone else with some sort of authority says is correct when they say it and if you think anything they say somehow conflicts with other teaching, whether it be current or "ancient" (i.e., before 1960) teaching, you're just too stupid to understand the bigger picture.

The sole Commandment of the Conciliar sect is:  Give us your money.

P.S.  They don't even care if you come to church anymore now that they've figured out they can get people to authorize automatic withdrawals from their checking accounts.

Great posts, especially Mario!

NeilObstat. I am flattered you are always thinking of me. God bless you.

You're welcome -- but not 'always' really, just when it's appropriate.

Like now, for example.


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First, in regards to the above posts, what is "AFD"?

Fr. Francois Chazal came up with the acronym 'AFD' to refer to the
April Fifteenth Declaration of XSPXSGBF, otherwise known by a
variety of names (such as the Doctrinal Declaration of 2012 or the
Doctrinal Preamble - both of which are unfortunately easily confused
with other docuмents with the same or nearly the same names).  

Second, I think all of the above can be summed up in one "dogmatic statement":

Whatever Conciliar popes, bishops, priests, theologians, Directors of Religious Education, liturgists, and anyone else with some sort of authority says is correct when they say it and if you think anything they say somehow conflicts with other teaching, whether it be current or "ancient" (i.e., before 1960) teaching, you're just too stupid to understand the bigger picture.

That's an interesting outlook.  What you describe is a KEY
underlying principle of the unclean spirit of Vat.II, which is a
demonic spirit -- it is of the devil.  Alstair Crowley pretty much
laid the foundation for Vat.II in his satanic bible, the main point
of which is simply summarized as, "Do what thou wilt is the
whole of the law."  Translated into "hippie-speak" of the
abominable 1960's, it became, "Do your own thing."  But as
applied to the local bishops, the principle is found in several
places, among which is SC 22.2, the paragraph to which many
other parts of the docuмents refer for this principle.

The sole Commandment of the Conciliar sect is:  Give us your money.

P.S.  They don't even care if you come to church anymore now that they've figured out they can get people to authorize automatic withdrawals from their checking accounts.

Sorry to hear that.  I entirely sympathize with you.  Auto debits
are the bane of modern accounting practices.  Don't get me started.

Every time I go to the bank a teller urges me to set up auto bill pay
with a checking account, and I'm convinced that the tellers are
getting some kind of bonus for customers who sign up for it, but
the tellers have to be stupid to do that because if everyone has
auto bill pay there are going to be a lot of tellers looking for
another job.  So they are encouraging customers to do something
that will effect the need for fewer tellers.

There is a utility that has a robot payment kiosk that accepts
cash from you to pay your bill.  At the end of your transaction it
always asks, "Do you want a receipt?"  That question did not make
any sense to me.  Why would someone put cash into a machine
without any human being to witness it, and not get a receipt?  One
day, having been unable to tolerate my ignorance, I dare to ask a
salesperson on the floor this question.  She told me that most of
their customers choose to not get a receipt for cash payments!  I
was flustered.  So it wasn't just the machine and an idiot
programmer who wrote the software!  Another customer standing
there overhearing our conversation offered her testimony, for
which I was extremely grateful, but looking back I might not have
given her the impression that I was appreciative!!  (If you know
what I mean!)  She said that she doesn't want to have a pile of
pieces of paper that she has to keep track of and throw away
when they become too numerous, and also, it "saves trees" to not
have so much wasted paper.  (These receipts are on thermal
paper and measure about 2" wide and 7" long.)  I rejoined, "What
is everyone going to do if the system fails and memory is lost
and the company has no record of you making a cash payment?"

Both the saleslady and the customer were incredulous in unison.  
They harmonized -- speaking practically the same words together,
as if on cue in a movie!   It sounded like a mechanical voice of a
robot with a sort of echo. "That's never going to happen!"  Then
they diverged with things like, "We have several backups so data
will never be lost," and, "The system is always reliable," and, "We
have never had any problem like that," and, "These machines are
built with the latest technology."  

Keep in mind, it is the COMPUTER that makes ALL BUSINESS
DECISIONS for the company.  There is absolutely no negotiating
possible with the manager of the store or the representative on
the phone in a call center somewhere in Plano Texas or Atlanta
Georgia.  The Computer is the final authority in all terms and
conditions.  And the Computer is therefore pretty much the
god of the utility, and both sales people and customers are
perfectly on board with this BEAST situation, arising right in plain
sight before our very eyes, that is, if we have eyes to see!


 

I don't think this is too much off topic, speaking of dogmas of
the Conciliar sect.  It is a kind of false god situation, no?



And I really appreciate all these clever and perceptive posts on
this thread, even if it may look like they insult me.  Bring it on!  
Maybe I need it!  The fruit so far here in this thread is very good,
and I can take a lot of abuse.  Believe me, this is nothing.  

Oh, and s2srea, you're most welcome to stir up more of whatever
it is!  (I know, I know, I thought of you again!  Isn't that special?!)   :smile:


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