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Offline curiouscatholic23

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Does this describe today ?
« on: October 17, 2011, 11:21:28 AM »
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  • For those of you who have studies Our Lady of Good Success, can you evaluate what I have highlighted in bold and give me your opinion of each bolded part? Also give me your timeline of the event and if it has already passed. Is this a general reference to the revolution of Vatican 2? Or is it about the earlier 20th century??Thanks.




    At 3:00 a.m. on February 2, 1634, while Mother Mariana was praying in the upper choir of the Royal Convent of the Immaculate Conception in Quito, Ecuador before the most Blessed Sacrament, the sanctuary light was completely extinguished and the main altar area went completely dark. Unable to light a candle herself, due to the loss of all power of her senses, Mother Mariana saw a celestial light fill the entire church. Our Lady appeared, lighted the Tabernacle lamp, approached Mother Mariana, and explained to her the five meanings of the light being extinguished, saying:

    “The sanctuary light burning before the altar that you saw be extinguished has many meanings. The first is that at the end of the 19th century and advancing into a large part of the 20th, various heresies will be propagated in this land, then a free Republic. As they come to dominate, the precious light of Faith will be extinguished in souls by the almost total corruption of customs. During this period, there will be great physical and moral catastrophes, both public and private. The small number of souls who, hidden, will conserve the treasure of the Faith and the virtues will suffer an unspeakably cruel and prolonged martyrdom. Many of them will succuмb to death from the violence of the suffering, and those who sacrifice themselves for Church and Country will be counted as martyrs. In order to free men from bondage to these heresies, those whom the merciful love of my Most Holy Son will destine for that restoration will need great strength of will, constancy, valor, and much confidence in God. To test this faith and confidence of the just, there will be occasions in which everything will seem lost and paralyzed. This will be, then, the happy beginning of the complete restoration.”

    “The second reason is that my Convent, being greatly reduced in number, will be submerged in a fathomless ocean of indescribable bitterness, and will seem to be drowning in these diverse waters of tribulations. How many authentic vocations will perish because of the lack of discretion, discernment, and prudence on the part of the Novice Mistresses in forming them! They should be souls of prayer and well-learned in the varied spiritual ways. Woe to those souls who will return to the Babylon of the world after having been in the secure port of this blessed Convent! During this unfortunate epoch, injustice will enter even here, my closed garden. Disguised under the name of false charity, it will wreak havoc in souls. The spiteful Devil will try to sow discord, making use of putrid members, who, masked by the appearance of virtue, will be like decaying sepulchers emanating the pestilence of putrefaction, causing moral deaths in some and lukewarmness in others. They will thrust a two-edged sword into my faithful daughters, my hidden souls, making them suffer a continuous and slow martyrdom. These faithful daughters will weep in secret and complain to their Lord and God, and their tears will be presented by their Guardian Angels to our Heavenly Father, asking that they shorten such dire times for the love of the Divine Prisoner.”

    “The third reason that the lamp was extinguished is because of the spirit of impurity that will saturate the atmosphere in those times. Like a filthy ocean, it will inundate the streets, squares, and public places with an astonishing liberty. There will be almost no virgin souls in the world. The delicate flower of virginity, timid and threatened by complete destruction, will shine in the distance. Taking refuge in cloisters, it will find good soil there that will take root, grow, and live, its fragrance being the delight of my Most Holy Son and the shield against divine ire. Without virginity, it would be necessary for the fire of Heaven to fall upon these lands to purify them. In his malicious pride, the invidious and pestiferous Devil will try to intrude into even these closed gardens of the religious cloisters to make this beautiful and delicate flower wither. But I will confront him and crush his head under my feet. Alas, how sorrowful! There will be careless souls who will voluntarily deliver themselves into his claws. Others, returning to the world, will be instruments of the Devil for the loss of souls.”

    The fourth motive for the lamp being extinguished is that the [Masonic] sect, having infiltrated all the social classes, will be so subtle as to introduce itself into domestic ambiences in order to corrupt the children, and the Devil will glory in dining upon the exquisite delicacy of the hearts of children. During those unfortunate times, evil will assault childhood innocence. In this way, vocations to the priesthood will be lost, which will be a true calamity. It will fall to religious groups to sustain the Church and to labor with valorous, disinterested zeal for the salvation of souls. For, during this period, the observance of the Rule will shine in the communities and there will be holy ministers of the altar, hidden and beautiful souls in whom my Most Holy Son and I will take our delight, finding them excellent flowers and fruits of heroic sanctity. The impious ones will rage a cruel war against them, letting fall on them vituperations, calumnies, and vexations in order to impede the fulfillment of their ministry. But they, like firm columns, will remain unswerving and will confront everything with that spirit of humility and sacrifice with which they will be vested, by virtue of the infinite merits of my Most Holy Son, Who loves them as the innermost fibers of His most holy and tender Heart. In this epoch, the Secular Clergy will be far removed from its ideal, because the priests will be careless in their sacred duties. Losing the divine compass, they will stray from the road traced by God for the priestly ministry and they will become attached to wealth and riches, which they will unduly strive to obtain. How this Church will suffer on that occasion the dark night of the lack of a Prelate and Father to watch over them with paternal love, gentleness, strength, discernment, and prudence. Many priests will lose their spirit, placing their souls in great danger. Pray insistently without tiring and weep with bitter tears in the secrecy of your heart, imploring our Celestial Father that, for love of the Eucharistic Heart of my Most Holy Son and His Precious Blood shed with such generosity and by the profound bitterness and sufferings of His cruel Passion and Death, He might take pity on His ministers and quickly bring to an end those ominous times, sending to this Church the Prelate who will restore the spirit of its priests. My Most Holy Son and I will love this favored son with a love of predilection, and we shall gift him with a rare capacity, humility of heart, docility to divine inspirations, the strength to defend the rights of the Church, and a tender and compassionate heart, so that, like another Christ, he will assist the great and the small, without despising the more unfortunate souls who ask him for light and counsel in their doubts and hardships. With divine suavity, he will guide the souls consecrated to the service of God in the cloisters, making light the yoke of the Lord, Who said, ‘My yoke is sweet, and my burden light.’ Into his hands the scales of the Sanctuary will be placed so that everything is weighed with due measure and God will be glorified. The lukewarmness of all the souls consecrated to God in the priestly and religious state will delay the coming of this Prelate and Father. This, then, will be the cause of the cursed Devil taking possession of this land, where he will achieve his victories by means of a foreign and faithless people, so numerous that, like a black cloud, it will obscure the limpid heavens of the then-Republic consecrated to the Most Sacred Heart of my Divine Son. With these people, all the vices will enter, which will attract in their turn every type of chastisement, such as plagues, famines, internal fighting and external disputes with other nations, and apostasy, the cause of the perdition of so many souls so dear to Jesus Christ and to me. In order to dissipate this black cloud that prevents the Church from enjoying the clear day of liberty, there will be a formidable and frightful war, which will see the bƖσσdshɛd of countrymen and foreigners, of secular and regular priests, and also of religious. That night will be most horrible, for, humanly speaking, evil will seem triumphant. This, then, will mark the arrival of my hour, when I, in a marvelous way, will dethrone the proud and cursed Satan, trampling him under my feet and fettering him in the infernal abyss. Thus the Church and Country will finally be free of his cruel tyranny.”

    “The fifth reason that the lamp was extinguished is due to the laxity and the negligence of those who possess great wealth, who will indifferently stand by and witness the Church being oppressed, virtue being persecuted, and the triumph of evil, without piously employing their riches for the destruction of the evil and restoration of the Faith. It is also due to the indifference of the people who will allow the Name of God to be gradually snuffed out and adhere to the spirit of evil, freely delivering themselves to vices and passions. Alas, my chosen daughter! If it were given to you to live in this tenebrous era, you would die of sorrow to see all that I have revealed to you here take place. My Most Holy Son and I have such a great love for this land, our legacy, that we desire even now the application of your sacrifices and prayers to shorten the time of such a terrible catastrophe.”




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    « Reply #1 on: October 17, 2011, 03:10:16 PM »
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  • Of course Our Lady's words are relevant right now; there is no question that while She may also have been speaking of other times in our history, She certainly could and did see the errors that are rampant in the world today, and the calamity that has come upon the Church.

    Right now, it IS falling to religious organizations like the CMRI and others to continue not only to defend Tradition but also to foster vocations and personal sanctity in the lives of a new generation of Catholics.

    Our Lady of Good Success, pray for us.

    Immaculate Heart of Mary, triumph soon.

    Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.
    This evil of heresy spreads itself. The doctrines of godliness are overturned; the rules of the Church are in confusion; the ambition of the unprincipled seizes upon places of authority; and the chief seat [the Papacy] is now openly proposed as a rewar


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    « Reply #2 on: October 17, 2011, 03:35:23 PM »
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  • Offline Raoul76

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    « Reply #3 on: October 17, 2011, 08:39:46 PM »
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  • That is one elaborate and precise message of the Virgin!

    I am somewhat more impressed by that than by Fatima, frankly.  Especially the part about the Angelic Pastor, since that's who she's talking about.

    I think various eras are telescoped, like they are in the Apocalypse, in this message.  The 19th century, the early 20th, and the late 20th / early 21st.  The age when the religious orders flourish and the secular priests fall away doesn't really pertain to our times.  I wonder if that isn't generally true of all times, that the monks are holier than the priests -- in fact I'm sure it is, when you consider how many monks and how few secular priests have become saints ( I think St. John Vianney is the only secular priest to be canonized ).  But I think she's talking about the build-up to Vatican II there.  

    Sorry, but I don't think the CMRI is what she's talking about there either.  If she were referring to sedes, the CMRI isn't notably more fervent than the independent secular priests, nor are the latter notably more wealthy.  The contrary is true; the CMRI has the rather elaborate Mt. St. Michael's church building and is doing much better financially than other sedes.

    The part about sin spreading everywhere and the triumph of evil and the frustration of the Angelic Pastor who is held back by the omnipresence of the lukewarm, and oh how true this is, I sensed it myself long before I read this prophecy... All this, of course, is our time.  

    I like the word "tenebrous."  This is an age where nothing, but nothing, can get done, the people are like zombies stuck in quicksand, they can't think, can't react, can't move.  It's like they're under some kind of hypnotic spell.  When it comes to making money, or seeking fame, or looking for sex, or cramming their heads with useless information, they have unlimited energy, to the point where I'm exhausted just thinking about it.  But when it comes to simply sticking up for Christ and the rights of the Church, from every college campus full of the most brilliant and gifted minds, from every corporation, from every government, there is only the most resounding and defeaning silence.  What is the excuse these people can make?  They weren't smart enough?  These same people who write book after book of history and philosophy, who can program C++, who can solve the most abstruse mathematical problems, who can build rockets and nuclear bombs, airplanes and satellites, all of these people who are gifted like no generation before with enormous IQs, who seem to almost be born polymaths, they can't figure out something as simple as Ratzinger breaking the First Commandment?  This is a colossal betrayal on the part of humanity as a whole that is, in an evil way, incredibly spectacular.
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #4 on: October 17, 2011, 08:50:37 PM »
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  • Quote from: Raoul76

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    Raoul's entire post.


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     :applause:

     :cheers:

    If I ever get down, Raoul, you know how to cheer me up. Truth speaks like the angels' voices to human ears.

    God bless you. Especially the C++ part... computer programming is ridiculous and difficult to master, yet people can't see Ratzinger bowing to a Lutheran altar as an acknowledgement of the Lutheran's presence of Jesus in their sacred liturgy area, or at the least him giving respect to Lutherans. Lutherans which are the cause of the Great Apostasy we are seeing (pulling the strings at Vatican II) and the cause for so many souls to spiral and tumble into hell by heresy.

    Wake up people. Wake up. Oh wait, they can't wake up. They are frozen shut in terror and shock.


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    « Reply #5 on: October 17, 2011, 08:56:14 PM »
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  • Not only is it relevant, it describes our current situation of having no Pope...and it is a fully church approved apparition!
    'Take care not to resemble the multitude whose knowledge of God's will only condemns them to more severe punishment.'

    -St. John of Avila