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Offline graceseeker

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Does the Church drive good people away?
« on: January 22, 2018, 05:21:44 PM »
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    • Is it just me or does the Church drive away good Catholics?

    and the bad ones, if they have $$$, are of course encouraged to stay (as long as they fork over the $$ every Sunday) 

    but then why should we be surprised when we know that for decades now... the liberals have been winning in their takeover of the Church

    looks like Satan virtually won... Remember when he visited Leo XIII (I believe it was) and said something like Give me a century and i will destroy the Church?

    yeh... looks like he virtually won
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    Re: Does the Church drive good people away?
    « Reply #1 on: January 22, 2018, 05:30:49 PM »
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    • Yeah it does.
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    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    Re: Does the Church drive good people away?
    « Reply #2 on: January 22, 2018, 07:58:10 PM »
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    • I thought there will be time of peace soon?
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    Offline Carissima

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    Re: Does the Church drive good people away?
    « Reply #3 on: January 22, 2018, 08:13:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: graceseeker on January 22, 2018, 05:21:44 PM
    Is it just me or does the Church drive away good Catholics?



    You’d have to lock me up to keep me away from Christ and The Church. 
    I am preparing for that day in case, and while I do I attend Mass and receive the Sacraments as often as I can. 
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    Re: Does the Church drive good people away?
    « Reply #4 on: January 22, 2018, 08:36:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: graceseeker on January 22, 2018, 05:21:44 PM
    Does the Church drive away good Catholics?
    No one of good will can be driven away. 

    They went out from us, but they were not of us. For if they had been of us, they would no doubt have remained with us; but that they may be manifest, that they are not all of us. (1 John 2:19)

    Not one of God's predestined can be driven away.
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    Offline graceseeker

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    Re: Does the Church drive good people away?
    « Reply #5 on: January 23, 2018, 05:00:50 PM »
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    • Quote from: Carissima on January 22, 2018, 08:13:52 PM
    You’d have to lock me up to keep me away from Christ and The Church.
    I am preparing for that day in case, and while I do I attend Mass and receive the Sacraments as often as I can.
    happy for you
    but I have been kicked out of the Church by a heretic priest and there are no other ones nearby. I don't have a private jet either...
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    Offline graceseeker

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    Re: Does the Church drive good people away?
    « Reply #6 on: January 23, 2018, 05:02:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on January 22, 2018, 07:58:10 PM
    I thought there will be time of peace soon?
    There will never be peace on this earth. There are too many antichrists in the world and the people who claim to love Him don't really... When things get tough, they ditch him. We all do that to some extent or another, but what i mean is that the world is becoming very un- Christian and it is partly bc of "Christians"
    But then Jesus did say that few would make it to Heaven (Mt 7, Lk 13... etc)
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    Re: Does the Church drive good people away?
    « Reply #7 on: January 23, 2018, 05:21:25 PM »
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    Re: Does the Church drive good people away?
    « Reply #8 on: January 23, 2018, 05:32:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: graceseeker on January 22, 2018, 05:21:44 PM
    Is it just me or does the Church drive away good Catholics?
    No.  It's just you.  The Conciliar sect drives away good Catholics.  The Church embraces the ones who find tradition.
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    Re: Does the Church drive good people away?
    « Reply #9 on: January 23, 2018, 06:11:30 PM »
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    • If the majority of clergy/church believes in Jєωιѕн-christian civilization as a norm, then yes, that will drive good people away.  Catholics and Jєωs do not belong in the same society.  There will always be exceptions, but when the exception is made the rule, then good people will suffer at the expense of pleasing the Jєωs and the errors catholics are convinced of maintaining.  Generations are judged by other generations.
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    Re: Does the Church drive good people away?
    « Reply #10 on: January 24, 2018, 01:12:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: TKGS on January 23, 2018, 05:32:19 PM
    No.  It's just you.  The Conciliar sect drives away good Catholics.  The Church embraces the ones who find tradition.
    Agreed.
    :cheers:
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    Re: Does the Church drive good people away?
    « Reply #11 on: January 24, 2018, 01:46:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: Capt McQuigg on January 24, 2018, 01:12:10 PM
    Agreed.
    :cheers:
    That is right! Churchmen and members may drive good people away but Jesus Christ and His True Church does not.
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    Re: Does the Church drive good people away?
    « Reply #12 on: January 24, 2018, 02:58:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: graceseeker on January 23, 2018, 05:00:50 PM
    happy for you
    but I have been kicked out of the Church by a heretic priest and there are no other ones nearby. I don't have a private jet either...
    I am very sorry to hear you’ve been kicked out of a chapel. Might as well be locked up. Although thankfully there are priests who travel great distances for souls like yourself. I wouldn’t so much say that ‘the Church’ drives people away, it is the corrupt people in the Church that do. 
    I will pray for you that you find a good priest. Many times I’ve felt the isolation that that is. It is a chastisement for our sins and the sins of the whole world. But you must also trust God, pray for a good priest and access to The Sacraments. 


    From Our Lady of Good Success, She said,

    “Religious communities will remain to sustain the Church and work with courage for the salvation of souls.… The secular clergy will fall far short of what is expected of them because they will not pursue their sacred duty. Losing the divine compass, they will stray from the way of priestly ministry mapped out for them by God and will become devoted to money, seeking it too earnestly.”

    “To be delivered from the slavery of these heresies, those whom the merciful love of my Son has destined for this restoration will need great will-power, perseverance, courage, and confidence in God. To try the faith and trust of these just ones, there will be times when all will seem lost and paralyzed. It will then be the happy beginning of the complete restoration….“

    “Pray constantly, implore tirelessly, and weep bitter tears in the seclusion of your heart, beseeching the Eucharistic Heart of my most holy Son to take pity on His ministers and to end as soon as possible these unhappy times by sending to His Church the Prelate who shall restore the spirit of her priests.”


    These words from Our Lady have brought great comfort to me in this crisis. 
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    Re: Does the Church drive good people away?
    « Reply #13 on: January 24, 2018, 04:56:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Carissima on January 24, 2018, 02:58:35 PM
    I am very sorry to hear you’ve been kicked out of a chapel. Might as well be locked up. Although thankfully there are priests who travel great distances for souls like yourself. I wouldn’t so much say that ‘the Church’ drives people away, it is the corrupt people in the Church that do.
    I will pray for you that you find a good priest. Many times I’ve felt the isolation that that is. It is a chastisement for our sins and the sins of the whole world. But you must also trust God, pray for a good priest and access to The Sacraments.


    Thank you.
    I keep thinking that Jesus will  come back soon bc things are just... have deteriorated too far
    I mean when a "priest" kicks out a devout Catholic.. I would like to think he may have repented but I have had dealings w/ this person for years and he just gets worse and worse
    as is the way these things go... Henry II of England... boy, there's a case of one getting worse and worse, as in: more and more sold out to the devil. Once you get on such a fast track, it is highly unlikely you will get off of it.. (repent)  So it seems from my view 
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    Re: Does the Church drive good people away?
    « Reply #14 on: January 24, 2018, 09:48:53 PM »
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    • Quote from: graceseeker on January 23, 2018, 05:00:50 PM
    happy for you
    but I have been kicked out of the Church by a heretic priest and there are no other ones nearby. I don't have a private jet either...
    Was it an SSPX chapel? Their priests are moved around alot, so if it was, there is a chance you can just wait it out for a little while and go back when the new priest takes the chapel over. Maybe that would solve the problem. It makes me sad to think that you aren't going to Mass and Confession at all. I hope you find an answer soon.
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