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Offline PG

Re: Does God care what we do for a living?
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2018, 05:31:02 PM »
disputaciones - Fr. Fahey talks about this in his book "the church and farming".  The short answer would be the answer God gave us in Genesis, when he said tend/keep my garden.  It is any wonder then why most of Christs parables are agriculturally themed?  As a recreational gardener, I cannot tell you how often I refer to what Christ said when I grow plants.
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Offline Neil Obstat

Re: Does God care what we do for a living?
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2018, 06:03:33 PM »
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While it might be possible God's answer to prayer could be a "nudge" in the direction of a certain gainful occupation for a Catholic, usually when we say "vocation" it refers to God's calling us into the religious life. I have heard several Novus Ordo priests attempt to equate the so-called vocation to married life with vocation to become a sister in a convent or a brother in a priory. This was not the case before Vat.II and consequently it must be a result of the ambiguity and unclean spirit of Vat.II.
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Certainly there are some gainful occupations that can be more beneficial to the Church and God's glory in the world, but in many cases a Catholic only has occasional opportunities to do or say something that is helpful that way. It seems to me that every occupation presents a kind of balancing act for the Catholic, in which he must always have in mind the avoidance of sin and the doing of morally upright acts. 
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In our present time, worldiness and the activism of morally impure people have been encroaching on our daily lives to the degree that it is more and more challenging to pursue a career without having to suffer setbacks or loss of advancement because of our desire and intention to avoid sin and adhere to a Catholic moral code. Therefore the Catholic balancing act is getting more difficult as time goes on.
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Offline Neil Obstat

Re: Does God care what we do for a living?
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2018, 06:27:18 PM »
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Well, finally I outstripped the new and improved time limit!
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While it might be possible God's answer to prayer could be a "nudge" in the direction of a certain gainful occupation for a Catholic, usually when we say "vocation" it refers to God's calling us into the religious life. I have heard several Novus Ordo priests attempt to equate the so-called vocation to married life with vocation to become a sister in a convent or a brother in a priory. This was not the case before Vat.II and consequently it must be a result of the ambiguity and unclean spirit of Vat.II.
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For example, Novus Ordo parishes now offer the so-called vocation of "Permanent Deacon" by which a Novus Ordo Catholic can get a salary or "stipend" for showing up and getting vested and conducting ceremonies that take the place of priests. The whole concept has the unmistakable aspect of Protestantism about it. Traditionally, in the Western Church a deacon is a man  on the way to becoming a priest, and it's a temporary designation as one of the steps along the way:  (minor orders) Porter, Lector, Exorcist, Acolyte; (major Orders) Subdeacon, Deacon, Priest. And a Deacon then who doesn't become a Priest is one who left the path for whatever reason, not because it was some kind of "career option." Furthermore, so-called Permanent Deacons I have known I have found to be conspicuously ignorant of important Church doctrines and generally far too materialistic in their outlook.

Certainly there are some gainful occupations that can be more beneficial to the Church and God's glory in the world, but in many cases a Catholic only has occasional opportunities to do or say something that is helpful that way. It seems to me that every occupation presents a kind of balancing act for the Catholic, in which he must always have in mind the avoidance of sin and the doing of morally upright acts. 
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In our present time, worldiness and the activism of morally impure people have been encroaching on our daily lives to the degree that it is more and more challenging to pursue a career without having to suffer setbacks or loss of advancement because of our desire and intention to avoid sin and adhere to a Catholic moral code. Therefore the Catholic balancing act is getting more difficult as time goes on.
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Offline JezusDeKoning

Re: Does God care what we do for a living?
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2018, 11:53:12 PM »
Quote from: Neil Obstat on April 05, 2018, 06:27:18 PM
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Well, finally I outstripped the new and improved time limit!
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While it might be possible God's answer to prayer could be a "nudge" in the direction of a certain gainful occupation for a Catholic, usually when we say "vocation" it refers to God's calling us into the religious life. I have heard several Novus Ordo priests attempt to equate the so-called vocation to married life with vocation to become a sister in a convent or a brother in a priory. This was not the case before Vat.II and consequently it must be a result of the ambiguity and unclean spirit of Vat.II.
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For example, Novus Ordo parishes now offer the so-called vocation of "Permanent Deacon" by which a Novus Ordo Catholic can get a salary or "stipend" for showing up and getting vested and conducting ceremonies that take the place of priests. The whole concept has the unmistakable aspect of Protestantism about it. Traditionally, in the Western Church a deacon is a man  on the way to becoming a priest, and it's a temporary designation as one of the steps along the way:  (minor orders) Porter, Lector, Exorcist, Acolyte; (major Orders) Subdeacon, Deacon, Priest. And a Deacon then who doesn't become a Priest is one who left the path for whatever reason, not because it was some kind of "career option." Furthermore, so-called Permanent Deacons I have known I have found to be conspicuously ignorant of important Church doctrines and generally far too materialistic in their outlook.

Certainly there are some gainful occupations that can be more beneficial to the Church and God's glory in the world, but in many cases a Catholic only has occasional opportunities to do or say something that is helpful that way. It seems to me that every occupation presents a kind of balancing act for the Catholic, in which he must always have in mind the avoidance of sin and the doing of morally upright acts.
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In our present time, worldiness and the activism of morally impure people have been encroaching on our daily lives to the degree that it is more and more challenging to pursue a career without having to suffer setbacks or loss of advancement because of our desire and intention to avoid sin and adhere to a Catholic moral code. Therefore the Catholic balancing act is getting more difficult as time goes on.
The Byzantines have the same thing, though. The new idea of permanent deacons in Western Christianity is something very much taken from the East, where the diaconate is not seen as a stepping stone, but rather a possibly permanent office. 
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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: Does God care what we do for a living?
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2018, 09:58:43 PM »
Quote from: Disputaciones on April 05, 2018, 07:19:47 AM
I've always wondered if there is something for every single person that God "meant" for that person to do, supposing such person belongs to the world and has to make a living.

For instance, if there is a profession God intended for every person, or a business etc.

I just think about this because I can decide on my own whether to go to this or that job, or whether to start this or that business, but in all this, I don't know what God would like me to be doing the most, or if there is something special I was meant for, something that will be the "best" thing I am suited for.

I think more and more about this when I think about working for a living, I mean, it really sucks to be a slave to someone else and to depend on your employers for money, and to be honest the whole thing is risky since you can be fired at any time, so I always wonder if this is what God would want me to be doing.

Should you even pray for this, or just analyze what best suits you and decide for yourself?
In my long experience in business:

What you do for a living should have been developed by your father since you were a child (I am talking about male children and man's work)

Everyone has a gift from God, a talent, a leaning. Some are born builders of things, some are born salesmen, doctors, lawyers, accountants, clergy, artists/aesthetics, farmers/agricultural....... It is the job of the father to figure this out and provide the tools for the child to grow in knowledge of their field.

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