Author Topic: Do you believe this? (Read 15747 times)

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #75 on:** December 27, 2012, 04:28:15 PM »

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Laramie,

No one said non-whites were less human than whites.

You're injecting your own emotions into this conversation.

There's no inherent sin in pointing out the lack of achievement of other races. It can't all be based on bad luck.

So, Laramie, please refrain from the rash judgements, ok?

I have disagreed with you a bit so far, but you hit the nail on the head here. No one said non-whites were "less than human." I'd like Laramie to find a post where I siad that.

Ditto. There is absolutely nothing "wrong" with human inferiority. EVERYBODY among us is greatly inferior to all sorts of others. Respecting and appreciating our inequalities is what genuine human humility is all about. Every superiority a man might have only obligates him all the more to everyone else. True human superiority is nothing if not a clarion call to Roman Catholic suffering.

Our greatest Catholic heroes never lack for tragedy. If we want to be superior to others, we had best be careful what we wish for. God just might take us at our word...

Not sure if I even agree with this.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #76 on:** December 27, 2012, 04:48:29 PM »

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Not sure if I even agree with this.

Human equality is impossible.

clare · « **Reply #77 on:** December 27, 2012, 05:02:53 PM »

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Isn't the word "Human" derivitve from meaning "white man"?

hue1 /hyu or, often, yu/ Show Spelled [hyoo or, often, yoo] Show IPA
noun
1. a gradation or variety of a color; tint: pale hues.
2. the property of light by which the color of an object is classified as red, blue, green, or yellow in reference to the spectrum.
3. color: all the hues of the rainbow.
4. form or appearance.
5. complexion.

And ;

man1 /mæn/ Show Spelled [man] Show IPA noun, plural men, verb, manned, man·ning, interjection.
noun
1. an adult male person, as distinguished from a boy or a woman.
2. a member of the species Homo sapiens or all the members of this species collectively, without regard to sex: prehistoric man.
3. the human individual as representing the species, without reference to sex; the human race; humankind:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/man

Thus the term" Hue-man" literally meaning "white-man" was probably an antiquated term used to describe the human races of lighter complexion usually of the European stock.

So, under that context, you could logically say nonwhites are in fact "less human".

My .02 here in this thread, carry on. :cool:

We went over this before here:

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... humus, to do with the earth, as in humiliate (be brought down to earth), humility, and humans being made of the slime of the earth.

which seems more likely.

http://www.english-for-students.com/human.html

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #78 on:** December 27, 2012, 05:04:23 PM »

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Not sure if I even agree with this.

Human equality is impossible.

I hope thats not being used as an excuse for inequality. Shouldn't we strive for equality?

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #79 on:** December 27, 2012, 05:07:26 PM »

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Not sure if I even agree with this.

Human equality is impossible.

I hope thats not being used as an excuse for inequality. Shouldn't we strive for equality?

Define equality. Do you mean legal equality? Do you mean using social constructs (such as equality) to be used as a battering ram for the advancement of marxism? Do you mean the destruction of differences and molding people into one big group? Do you mean the destruction of diversity?

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #80 on:** December 27, 2012, 05:12:00 PM »

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Not sure if I even agree with this.

Human equality is impossible.

I hope thats not being used as an excuse for inequality. Shouldn't we strive for equality?

Define equality. Do you mean legal equality? Do you mean using social constructs (such as equality) to be used as a battering ram for the advancement of marxism? Do you mean the destruction of differences and molding people into one big group? Do you mean the destruction of diversity?

No I really just mean giving everyone a fair chance at success, and treating everyone respectfully. There is not much we can do about the taxonomical differences and such.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #81 on:** December 27, 2012, 05:17:02 PM »

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I hope thats not being used as an excuse for inequality. Shouldn't we strive for equality?

Trying to create Heaven on earth is what the Marxists do. We should realize equality is impossible.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #82 on:** December 27, 2012, 05:17:49 PM »

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No I really just mean giving everyone a fair chance at success, and treating everyone respectfully.

That doesn't happen under affirmative action.

Sigismund · « **Reply #83 on:** December 27, 2012, 06:27:22 PM »

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So what is the big deal about "interracial" marriage? We are all souls made in the image of Almighty God. In baptism, we are all brothers and sisters of Christ. Even St Paul made no distinction... So why should we? As long as we are united in the Faith, nothing else matters.

How can anyone who holds the Catholic faith disagree wit this statement?

Ask the people who prefer certain races over others for taxonomical reasons. I would say thats one reason why I dont like white women with black guys. They might find out they prefer black guys. Some say they do so there you go. Nobody goes after them for racism. It is racism by the way.

What about the Jєωιѕн interracial mixing agenda? You neglect that and continue to race mix? Are you not worried about our culture and way of life? I understand if you fall in love with someone of a different race. I would marry that person too. But at the same time I think we should be working towards limiting that.

Let me get this straight. You don't want white women to date black men because you think you can't compete? You can't possibly expect me to take this seriously.

I married my wife, loved her, and had children and created a Catholic family with her because God gave me this gift, not becasue some supposed Jєωιѕн conspiracy told ne to.

Sigismund · « **Reply #84 on:** December 27, 2012, 06:29:40 PM »

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So what is the big deal about "interracial" marriage? We are all souls made in the image of Almighty God. In baptism, we are all brothers and sisters of Christ. Even St Paul made no distinction... So why should we? As long as we are united in the Faith, nothing else matters.

Why is it that white women never date asian guys then? You hear a lot of them say they just aren't attracted to asian guys. On top of it all, they are increasingly voicing about how they prefer black men. If things were so even, then this would not be happening. They would like asian men just as much as black guys and every other race for that matter. Unfortunately, asian men are smaller and less muscular on the average. Not to mention other taxonomical differences. Im surprised they dont get mad when (as telephorus suggested) asian women go with white men. I know I would.

People end up on the poop end of the stick because of interracial dating. Asian men and black women end up empty handed. Guys like me end up single because Im not all that interested in asian women (some I like I will admit) and I refuse to date a white woman who has gone black. Yeah hispanic women can be nice looking from time to time. I like black women sometimes too but they usually have an attitude that is unattractive.

Really the agenda boils down to trying to make things socially acceptable for white women and black guys to be together. Thats about it. White women don't want to be looked at negatively for it, and black guys just want a sexier more feminine women thats easier to get along with.

In the end you end up with some angry white guys who find out that their woman has been blacked. It really just causes problems between white men and white women. Not all the time but a lot of times. A lot of white guys don't like it. Black guys think its funny.

This is boorish nonsense. as Telesphorus rightly points out, it complete obscures and actually point you might have. There is nothing even remotely Catholic about it.

Sigismund · « **Reply #85 on:** December 27, 2012, 06:30:53 PM »

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Yet the Good Lord in His infinite wisdom did not make us to be a dreary mixed-race brown, a unisex, a boorish mindless proletariat. God could have done, but He does not suffer from amnesia and He made us as He most thoughtfully knew best.

In most cases miscegenation is a mortal sin against the Creation that the Lord hath made.

This is sick, it is not Catholic, and you have no authority to declare something to be a "mortal sin in most cases." Please cite some authority supporting your position.

I would also be very interested in a Catholic source for this idiocy.

Sigismund · « **Reply #86 on:** December 27, 2012, 06:32:18 PM »

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I am down thumbing your posts. I am not a liberal. I am a Catholic, who believes what the Catholic Church teaches about race. Namely, that we are all human.

Yeah we are all "human" however there is a difference amongst the races. That is a scientific fact. It seems you have been around your Jєωιѕн family members for much too long.

Actually, I was around my Filipino wife and my biracial children.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #87 on:** December 27, 2012, 06:40:02 PM »

Part of woman's fallen nature is to be attracted to base characters.

This is just reality.

You want to shame devout men for being incensed at the degenerate behavior of blacks in a society in which "gangster rap" is promoted.

That is tantamount to betrayal of basic values of decency. Not all cultures and societies are equal. Different groups have different abilities and temperament.

When white men are told to be virtuous, devout, but are essentially disarmed from dealing with the belligerent, disgusting, fatherless culture of the blacks and hispanics.

We're supposed to follow all the rules and then to avoid being called racist white men are expected to put their daughters in situations where they can be taken advantage by those animals.

This leftist "racial egalitarianism" is in reality a form of aggression against the basic values of family and of civilization itself. To pretend it is part of the religion is a betrayal of the religion - it is a betrayal of the natural order.

It is suicidal and it is submission to evil. Multi-cultural marxism, embraced by whites, is a death wish.

Sigismund · « **Reply #88 on:** December 27, 2012, 06:43:52 PM »

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Okay.

Y'all got that?

1. Non-whites are less than human, blacks, particularly are the least human of them all.

2. Non-whites should not be educated with or in the same manner as whites.

3. Non-whites, since they lack the glory of whites, are least capable of getting to Heaven when compared with whites.

4. Somewhere in the Catechism, we can discern that mixing with anyone outside our own race is a mortal sin. Therefore, if you have a mixed child, you should immediately go to confession and regret the child until your death.

5. Mixed children are a morlock race that somehow God accidentally allowed to come into existence, and mixed children never ever occurred in history before the American sɛҳuąƖ Revolution--never.

6. One day, with hard work, diligence, and the use of revolutionary force, we can create a white utopia absent of all non-white races and mixed-race morlocks, and that ought to be our goal in this world.

7. This fondness for the white race and the world's inequality to this exclusive white race has absolutely no resemblance whatsoever to the Jєωιѕн utopian idea of a racially pure Jєωιѕн state that excludes all gentiles.

Sant Agustino, Ora pro nobis
Santa Monica, Ora pro nobis
Sant Martino de Porres, Ora pro nobis

Amen.

Anthony Benedict · « **Reply #89 on:** December 27, 2012, 06:47:43 PM »

Strictly for informational purposes only, isn't there a Church docuмent, dating back to the Spanish Conquest, condemning racial discrimination and permitting Spaniards and other Europeans to marry South American natives? I seem to recall such a docuмent being described but that was many years ago.