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Offline Traditional Guy 20

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« Reply #60 on: December 27, 2012, 03:04:19 PM »
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  • Quote from: LaramieHirsch
    Okay.

    Y'all got that?  

    1. Non-whites are less than human, blacks, particularly are the least human of them all.

    2. Non-whites should not be educated with or in the same manner as whites.

    3. Non-whites, since they lack the glory of whites, are least capable of getting to Heaven when compared with whites.

    4. Somewhere in the Catechism, we can discern that mixing with anyone outside our own race is a mortal sin.  Therefore, if you have a mixed child, you should immediately go to confession and regret the child until your death.

    5. Mixed children are a morlock race that somehow God accidentally allowed to come into existence, and mixed children never ever occurred in history before the American sɛҳuąƖ Revolution--never.

    6. One day, with hard work, diligence, and the use of revolutionary force, we can create a white utopia absent of all non-white races and mixed-race morlocks, and that ought to be our goal in this world.

    7. This fondness for the white race and the world's inequality to this exclusive white race has absolutely no resemblance whatsoever to the Jєωιѕн utopian idea of a racially pure Jєωιѕн state that excludes all gentiles.


    What on earth are you babbling about?

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    « Reply #61 on: December 27, 2012, 03:04:43 PM »
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  • Quote from: LaramieHirsch
    Okay.

    Y'all got that?  

    1. Non-whites are less than human, blacks, particularly are the least human of them all.

    2. Non-whites should not be educated with or in the same manner as whites.

    3. Non-whites, since they lack the glory of whites, are least capable of getting to Heaven when compared with whites.

    4. Somewhere in the Catechism, we can discern that mixing with anyone outside our own race is a mortal sin.  Therefore, if you have a mixed child, you should immediately go to confession and regret the child until your death.

    5. Mixed children are a morlock race that somehow God accidentally allowed to come into existence, and mixed children never ever occurred in history before the American sɛҳuąƖ Revolution--never.

    6. One day, with hard work, diligence, and the use of revolutionary force, we can create a white utopia absent of all non-white races and mixed-race morlocks, and that ought to be our goal in this world.

    7. This fondness for the white race and the world's inequality to this exclusive white race has absolutely no resemblance whatsoever to the Jєωιѕн utopian idea of a racially pure Jєωιѕн state that excludes all gentiles.


    Sant Agustino, Ora pro nobis
    Santa Monica, Ora pro nobis
    Sant Martino de Porres, Ora pro nobis
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    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

    +RIP 2024


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    « Reply #62 on: December 27, 2012, 03:11:17 PM »
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    Making scarecrows Laramie?  Who are you addressing?


    Who am I addressing?  Let's review the start of the post:

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    Okay.

    Y'all got that?  


    Apparently, I'm addressing "y'all."

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    What on earth are you babbling about?



    Merely organizing the collected thoughts on this topic into one single post.  ...your babbling, basically.

    Apparently, someone doesn't like the fact I organized it in this manner.  I assumed you'd appreciate the convenience of it.
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    Before some audiences not even the possession of the exactest knowledge will make it easy for what we say to produce conviction. For argument based on knowledge implies instruction, and there are people whom one cannot instruct.  - Aristotle

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    « Reply #63 on: December 27, 2012, 03:14:42 PM »
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  • Laramie,

    No one said non-whites were less human than whites.  

    You're injecting your own emotions into this conversation.

    There's no inherent sin in pointing out the lack of achievement of other races.  It can't all be based on bad luck.

    So, Laramie, please refrain from the rash judgements, ok?

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    « Reply #64 on: December 27, 2012, 03:15:01 PM »
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  • I think interracial mixing really took off with the invention of speedy transport available to the masses.  Trains, cars, and then there's planes, of course.

    One image that comes to mind is all those wild west movies where I see a railroad in Arizona being put together by a crew of black men and those fellows from Ming's China.
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    « Reply #65 on: December 27, 2012, 03:20:53 PM »
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    I think interracial mixing really took off with the invention of speedy transport available to the masses.  Trains, cars, and then there's planes, of course.

    One image that comes to mind is all those wild west movies where I see a railroad in Arizona being put together by a crew of black men and those fellows from Ming's China.


    Mass waves of illegal immigrants to speed up the process.

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    « Reply #66 on: December 27, 2012, 03:25:41 PM »
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    Laramie,

    No one said non-whites were less human than whites.  

    You're injecting your own emotions into this conversation.

    There's no inherent sin in pointing out the lack of achievement of other races.  It can't all be based on bad luck.

    So, Laramie, please refrain from the rash judgements, ok?


    I have disagreed with you a bit so far, but you hit the nail on the head here. No one said non-whites were "less than human." I'd like Laramie to find a post where I siad that.

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    « Reply #67 on: December 27, 2012, 03:28:58 PM »
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    Laramie,

    No one said non-whites were less human than whites.  

    You're injecting your own emotions into this conversation.

    There's no inherent sin in pointing out the lack of achievement of other races.  It can't all be based on bad luck.

    So, Laramie, please refrain from the rash judgements, ok?


    I have disagreed with you a bit so far, but you hit the nail on the head here. No one said non-whites were "less than human." I'd like Laramie to find a post where I siad that.


    You could be right.  

    I'd like to go back for edit, but I think the opportunity's gone.

    Instead of "less than human," I would instead summarize it as "less human."

    I think that'd be more accurate.
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    Before some audiences not even the possession of the exactest knowledge will make it easy for what we say to produce conviction. For argument based on knowledge implies instruction, and there are people whom one cannot instruct.  - Aristotle


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    « Reply #68 on: December 27, 2012, 03:31:02 PM »
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    You could be right.  

    I'd like to go back for edit, but I think the opportunity's gone.

    Instead of "less than human," I would instead summarize it as "less human."

    I think that'd be more accurate.


    I did not say non-whites were "less human" either. I said they were not equal, which is a scientific fact, and show less culture than Europe, which is a historical fact.

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    « Reply #69 on: December 27, 2012, 03:32:18 PM »
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  • Laramie,

    Don't be dishonest.  No one said that either.

    If you have a differing opinion then go ahead and express it.  If you have a case then make the case.  


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    « Reply #70 on: December 27, 2012, 03:42:20 PM »
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    If you have a differing opinion then go ahead and express it.  If you have a case then make the case.  



    My thoughts are on another thread.

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    Wasn't in-depth conversation about all this covered in that miscegenation thread about a month ago?

    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Miscegenationracially-mixed-marriages
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    « Reply #71 on: December 27, 2012, 03:52:54 PM »
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  • The "Hispanic" label is very misleading. The countries of Central and especially South America are very diverse. They had periods of massive immigration similar to the US.

    My wife is from South America, we both come from Italian ancestry. My people came to the US, hers to South America. But she is considered a different race than me??? Crazy !!

    I believe White men look overseas for women mainly because American women are not very feminine.  Although White women tend to be more feminine than black Americans, hence Black men tend to look at white and Asian women.

    I tell my children that marriage is hard enough on its own, throw in race/cultural differences makes it that much tougher. With that being said, I wouldn't be against my children marring outside their race along as the person they are marrying is a practicing, faithful Catholic.  

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    « Reply #72 on: December 27, 2012, 03:59:43 PM »
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    The "Hispanic" label is very misleading. The countries of Central and especially South America are very diverse. They had periods of massive immigration similar to the US.

    My wife is from South America, we both come from Italian ancestry. My people came to the US, hers to South America. But she is considered a different race than me??? Crazy !!

    I believe White men look overseas for women mainly because American women are not very feminine.  Although White women tend to be more feminine than black Americans, hence Black men tend to look at white and Asian women.

    I tell my children that marriage is hard enough on its own, throw in race/cultural differences makes it that much tougher. With that being said, I wouldn't be against my children marring outside their race along as the person they are marrying is a practicing, faithful Catholic.  


    very good input

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    « Reply #73 on: December 27, 2012, 04:02:24 PM »
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    Laramie,

    No one said non-whites were less human than whites.  

    You're injecting your own emotions into this conversation.

    There's no inherent sin in pointing out the lack of achievement of other races.  It can't all be based on bad luck.

    So, Laramie, please refrain from the rash judgements, ok?


    I have disagreed with you a bit so far, but you hit the nail on the head here. No one said non-whites were "less than human." I'd like Laramie to find a post where I siad that.

    Ditto.  There is absolutely nothing "wrong" with human inferiority.  EVERYBODY among us is greatly inferior to all sorts of others.  Respecting and appreciating our inequalities is what genuine human humility is all about.  Every superiority a man might have only obligates him all the more to everyone else.  True human superiority is nothing if not a clarion call to Roman Catholic suffering.

    Our greatest Catholic heroes never lack for tragedy.  If we want to be superior to others, we had best be careful what we wish for.  God just might take us at our word...




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    « Reply #74 on: December 27, 2012, 04:19:41 PM »
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    Laramie,

    No one said non-whites were less human than whites.  

    You're injecting your own emotions into this conversation.

    There's no inherent sin in pointing out the lack of achievement of other races.  It can't all be based on bad luck.

    So, Laramie, please refrain from the rash judgements, ok?


    I have disagreed with you a bit so far, but you hit the nail on the head here. No one said non-whites were "less than human." I'd like Laramie to find a post where I siad that.


    You could be right.  

    I'd like to go back for edit, but I think the opportunity's gone.

    Instead of "less than human," I would instead summarize it as "less human."

    I think that'd be more accurate.
    Not to be a stickler but.....

    Isn't the word "Human" derivitve from meaning "white man"?

    hue1  /hyu or, often, yu/ Show Spelled [hyoo or, often, yoo] Show IPA
    noun  
    1. a gradation or variety of a color; tint: pale hues.
    2. the property of light by which the color of an object is classified as red, blue, green, or yellow in reference to the spectrum.
    3. color: all the hues of the rainbow.  
    4. form or appearance.
    5. complexion.

    And ;

    man1  /mæn/ Show Spelled [man] Show IPA noun, plural men, verb, manned, man·ning, interjection.
    noun  
    1. an adult male person, as distinguished from a boy or a woman.
    2. a member of the species Homo sapiens  or all the members of this species collectively, without regard to sex: prehistoric man.  
    3. the human individual as representing the species, without reference to sex; the human race; humankind:

     
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/man


    Thus the term" Hue-man" literally meaning "white-man" was probably an antiquated  term used to describe the human races of lighter complexion usually of the European stock.

    So, under that context, you could logically say nonwhites are in fact "less human".

    My .02 here in this thread, carry on. :cool: