Herr Franz, please stop trying to hijack the Catholic Faith for your deranged theories about Aryan blood castes, Wagnerian tragedy, romantic nationalism, esoteric sympathy for Protestants, and all other kinds of crypto-occultist syncretist neo-pagan nonsense. If you are yourself an example of this "aristocracy" you always talk about, well, that's a strong argument against it.
Don't misunderstand me. I do believe that there is a natural hierarchy between men and that there are natural aristocracies that develop amongst nations, that certain races are more gifted than others, and that our contemporary world is beholden to both immediate and, of course, ancient causes. But all that is utterly beside the point, and I mean what I said in different sense than you might. Brotherfrancis75, either stop posting or at least give others the courtesy of more frankly announcing your intentions and your beliefs. Surely you must be "hyper-aware" of the need for this, since, as you surely know, your persona on this forum is quickly turning into camp.
Pere Joseph, Thank you for doing me the honor of responding to my highly wrought poetic prose. In fact whether we like it or not, the two of us are in our way a bit like the "Sancho Panza" and "Don Quixote" of CathInfo. All the more reason for us to understand that neither of our attitudes is going away anytime soon, or ever. Both my high-flying Catholic Romanticism and your ground-hugging Catholic Realism are here to stay.
It is the "romantic" aspect of Catholicism that continually keeps getting us into scrapes, thrills and spills. But we need to understand that Our Lord's enemies will quarrel with us no matter what we do and we will do best if we are somewhat prepared for that inevitability. In truth every Catholic is an example of both our awesomely Romantic Catholic nobility and our awesomely Realistic Catholic peasantry and common people. It's often been said that in social terms our common people represent the Holy Ghost on earth, our clergy God the Father and our noble warrior class Our Lord Himself. Remember also that in our religion every priest is of noble rank so that in social terms our entire "noblesse de sang" shows forth Christ among us in that way too. Our noble priesthood leads our entire military class in representing the Son of God on earth. Our incomparable noble Catholic heritage that every Catholic shares is not something to be dismissed lightly.
The many natural virtues of our pre-Christian heritage are something for our Catholic warrior class to use as they see fit, Good Pere Joseph, your language about my alleged "paganism" is too loose and perhaps itself somewhat more dangerous to us than any contemporary sickly Paganism can be. The Catholic Roman ancestral pride of blood is not any kind of Hindu caste system; however romantic my nationalism may be it is Catholic Nationalism and not anything other than that; my natural sympathy for our Protestant blood relations is charitable and Catholic, not "esoteric" and Pagan.
Although this writer must recognize the importance of polytheists like Rene Guenon and Julius Evola, they are not in any way my models or teachers. Whereas Herr Mozart, Herr Wagner and other such great Romantic masters of our Roman civilization should command the respect of every Catholic man worth his salt. However realistic we may be, we ought to avoid behaving like insolent peasants too good for our social betters. As Roman Catholics we are scarcely in a position to look down our noses at great Catholic men like Mozart and Wagner. (Wagner was a classic German convert to Catholicism. My good Frenchman, please get over it.)
Good Pere Joseph, when you bash this writer as "nonsense," what can be said? Camp? Foppery? No doubt guilty as charged. But German Catholic Roman Romanticism still has a very long way to go. We have only just begun! And you are right that this writer needs to be more frank about his beliefs. My Germanic fondness for thick fogs, endless analysis, dithering and indirection is indeed the bane of every German's existence: Thank you for pointing it out. Perhaps this writer should more often refer to "Roman Romanticism" and "Wagnerianism." Although probably not too often. In any event a high-flying Romanticism is the very essence of the history and heritage that is Roman Christendom so we had best not deny that most glorious inheritance of ours anytime soon.
As is said, our past is frequently our prologue too.
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