Author Topic: Do you agree with this? (Read 1756 times)

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #15 on:** September 01, 2013, 04:03:29 PM »

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During mass today, one of the speakers mentioned how rights are from God and not the government. I'm not sure what this person meant by this exactly. But I do know that rights (that have been established in our government) typically protect the wicked. Its the women who don't want to accept their God given role that want rights so that they can be independent of men and have jobs etc. Its the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs who want rights so that they can cater to their lifestyle. Its the Jews that have rights so that they can weasel their way to the top of the system, and do what they want to do to our society. The list goes on. These groups of people are the reason why there is so much corruption in our society today. These are the people we don't want rising to the top of OUR system. Some of which should go back to their respective countries and live however they want.

God's laws are meant for us to have a closer relationship with God. Government laws give the wicked a chance to rise to the top of the system.

Women say that they need rights because of domestic violence and rape etc. I almost wonder sometimes if this is just a ploy so that they can become independent of men. If a husband is beating his wife then the wife should shoot him in self defense. If women started doing that then we probably would not be dealing with domestic violence nearly as much today. Instead they chose to start a women's rights movement.

To prevent rape, women should learn the Native American trick. At an early age, native american girls would learn to tighten their ####l muscles so if a man were to rape them then they could hurt the man. I firmly think that women who are so afraid of rape should learn this. If all women learned this then that would cut down on rape a lot. Instead, women chose to start a rights movement.

There are other ways that things could have been handled. Instead society is loosing sight of gender roles, and many men are finding it harder to raise a family because its harder to find a decent paying job...due to women taking up so many jobs.

You have a rambling nutty provocative way of making your point. But I up-thumbed you because I agree with the crux of most of what you said. I do think you're full of xxxx with regard to rape though. With regard to domestic violence, there were already adequate laws on the books for dealing with it. But demagogue politicians jumped on the bandwagon of passing a bunch of "domestic violence" laws.

Part of it is because I am a little upset over them spying on me too. It just goes to show that surveillance and technology have given the wrong people too much insight into what runs through people's heads. As well as, too much power over people. I think this is bad and only caters to the Antichrist.

Lighthouse · « **Reply #16 on:** September 01, 2013, 04:10:48 PM »

So, you have people inside your head?

You should be very careful.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #17 on:** September 01, 2013, 05:09:55 PM »

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What kind of "mass" do you go to where they have "speakers"?

Is that a Dale Carnegie mass or what?

Its Novus Ordo in a liberal area.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #18 on:** September 01, 2013, 05:11:11 PM »

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So, you have people inside your head?

You should be very careful.

Well it sure is messing with me. They make some condescending remarks about the stuff I have been saying on this website. I believe they should not be doing this. Its going to far.

Have you ever been through anything like that before?

Matto · « **Reply #19 on:** September 01, 2013, 05:13:14 PM »

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If the ZOG goes unchecked then it will attach itself to the One World Government which will be headed by the Antichrist.

I think that the antichrist will be a jew who is in charge of the one world government.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #20 on:** September 01, 2013, 05:14:39 PM »

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What kind of "mass" do you go to where they have "speakers"?

Is that a Dale Carnegie mass or what?

Its Novus Ordo in a liberal area.

It's suspicious that you are so quick to adopt the most extreme attitudes imaginable, yet when it comes to the Faith, you will compromise with religion-in-a-can.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #21 on:** September 01, 2013, 06:35:36 PM »

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What kind of "mass" do you go to where they have "speakers"?

Is that a Dale Carnegie mass or what?

Its Novus Ordo in a liberal area.

It's suspicious that you are so quick to adopt the most extreme attitudes imaginable, yet when it comes to the Faith, you will compromise with religion-in-a-can.

On a few matters yes...I am becoming more and more aware of the problems in society, and looking back on my life and seeing why I have been persecuted so much. Thats why I am starting to think that more extreme measures should be taken to prevent these things from happening. One of the reasons I am against women's rights is because I have dealt with ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ feelings in the past. I think it is related to how society has become so liberal in these areas by so many people actually promoting them, and how the gender gap is closing more and more all the time. Your going to find people who are conservative in certain areas, and more liberal in others. I am starting to see why so many people on this forum are against the Novus Ordo. I do agree with some of the reasons, but other issues I'm not so sure of. Its not that I disagree with those too. Its just the stuff I read was over my head or I just didn't see the argument.

OHCA · « **Reply #22 on:** September 01, 2013, 07:52:29 PM »

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Whats wrong with what I said about rape?

I had forgotten, but I did attend a program about rape back in college that had a very feminist agenda. But the laws on the books in my state regarding rape are very appropriate (i.e., forcible compulsion, mental incapacity, under age). Do you oppose laws against rape? That's how I took what you said. That's what I perceive as wrong with what you said about rape--I think in commonsense scenarios, it should be a crime.

OHCA · « **Reply #23 on:** September 01, 2013, 08:04:01 PM »

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What kind of "mass" do you go to where they have "speakers"?

Is that a Dale Carnegie mass or what?

Its Novus Ordo in a liberal area.

It's suspicious that you are so quick to adopt the most extreme attitudes imaginable, yet when it comes to the Faith, you will compromise with religion-in-a-can.

Very true--I guess he thinks the masonic bugnini and the heretical protestant ministers and the jew did a pretty good job with the new "mass." And I guess he likes conciliarist leaders joining in Assissi with those he purports to take issue with as well.

OHCA · « **Reply #24 on:** September 01, 2013, 08:10:21 PM »

I'm glad you started this thread IF. What do you think about your original post? Do you think it has religious ramifications? Ramifications related to facilitating or impeding our journey through this life to hopefully reaching heaven? What do you think is the direction that furthers us toward our goal? How many of the conciliarist head-honchos since 1958 do you think have agreed with your perspective?

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #25 on:** September 01, 2013, 08:41:25 PM »

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What kind of "mass" do you go to where they have "speakers"?

Is that a Dale Carnegie mass or what?

Its Novus Ordo in a liberal area.

It's suspicious that you are so quick to adopt the most extreme attitudes imaginable, yet when it comes to the Faith, you will compromise with religion-in-a-can.

Very true--I guess he thinks the masonic bugnini and the heretical protestant ministers and the jew did a pretty good job with the new "mass." And I guess he likes conciliarist leaders joining in Assissi with those he purports to take issue with as well.

That's precisely the issue. One can appear as 'traditional' as possible when it comes to social and practical issues, but if they cave when it comes to religion it's very difficult to take them seriously. Hence, I wonder how often (if ever) IF is posting seriously.

If I recall, IF recently started a thread asking people to convince him to become a traditional Catholic. In it, he levied the typical neo-cat objections to the traditional view of the new mass and VII.

Whatever is informing his views (if they are even real in the first place) it is not the Catholic Church.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #26 on:** September 01, 2013, 11:08:28 PM »

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Whats wrong with what I said about rape?

I had forgotten, but I did attend a program about rape back in college that had a very feminist agenda. But the laws on the books in my state regarding rape are very appropriate (i.e., forcible compulsion, mental incapacity, under age). Do you oppose laws against rape? That's how I took what you said. That's what I perceive as wrong with what you said about rape--I think in commonsense scenarios, it should be a crime.

I agree with laws against rape.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #27 on:** September 01, 2013, 11:14:02 PM »

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I'm glad you started this thread IF. What do you think about your original post? Do you think it has religious ramifications? Ramifications related to facilitating or impeding our journey through this life to hopefully reaching heaven? What do you think is the direction that furthers us toward our goal? How many of the conciliarist head-honchos since 1958 do you think have agreed with your perspective?

These are some good questions. I can see how these things mentioned in the first post can cause problems i.e. destruction of culture, too many women having jobs, etc. I do not think they are directly related to the goal of salvation. I'm not sure how much the Novus Ordo stresses these things. Alls I know is that they are mentioned in the Catechism.

Going to mass, celebrating the Sacraments, and believing in the Trinity are the most important factors for salvation.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #28 on:** September 02, 2013, 11:02:26 AM »

This thread's title should be:

Infinite Faith vs. CathInfo members, RE: What I Believe (i.e., subjectively)

Or,
The Subjective Thread of Infinite Faith

The "Human Community Catechism" was mentioned on the first
page or two; and that was the end of that topic.

The title is a lie: Nowhere on the linked website (St. Charles
Borromeo parish) do the words "human community" appear in
any title of anything whatsoever, let alone a catechism.

Therefore the phrase is entirely subjective! Infinite Faith
apparently likes these two words together for some reason.
There are three or more places in the Catechism of the Catholic
Church [sic] where the words "human community" occur
and it is not any kind of section title but it's rather within the
body of text only.

Perhaps Infinite Faith is on the Board of Directors at the parish
and is one of the ones pushing to change the name of the
parish to "faith community" instead of Catholic Church? -Like
so many other parishes in the United States have done in the
aftermath of the abominable Vat.II.

As for questions about "What church is this?" and all, the website is
clearly a NovusOrdo parish in Picaune, Mississippi:

1000 Goodyear Boulevard, Picayune, Mississippi 39466, 601.798.4779

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catechism

Our on-line 2nd Edition English Translation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church includes a search engine, index, tables of contents, index and cross-references.

For any readers who want to know what is REALLY going on
with this so-called catechism of the Catholic Church, you are
much better off reading and hearing recordings available on
this other website: Radio Programs of Fr. Wathen. There you'll
find many installments that go into lots of detail on the new
"catechism" of John Paul II (it was ingenuously and
presumptuously called CCC - the first book in the history of
the Church to be so presumptuous in its title).

StCeciliasGirl · « **Reply #29 on:** September 02, 2013, 11:54:41 AM »

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If a husband is beating his wife then the wife should shoot him in self defense. If women started doing that then we probably would not be dealing with domestic violence nearly as much today. Instead they chose to start a women's rights movement.

Not to pile on, but women shouldn't murder their husbands. Ever. These commandments are a mercy of God which tell us what injures our souls to the point of no return. Being beaten would suck, but murder injures the murderer's soul mortally, just as adultery injures the adulterer mortally, &c. Secular humanists can't understand these things without the Church, as their "rules" are in terms of physical survival and comfort; but Catholics know these mortal sins make one less able to even want forgiveness, much less able to ask for forgiveness and absolution.

Marriage by definition trumps one's personal comforts and "rights", but if one's husband were truly abusive (not a shove after an argument, but truly abusive), I would hope the wife would do everything in her power to help him (starting with calling the priest, getting rosary intentions for him, whatever it takes).