Author Topic: DO NOT post covers of Charlie Hebdo on CathInfo (Read 3489 times)

Matthew · « **on:** January 13, 2015, 10:13:54 AM »

I've had to remove the same picture twice, from two different threads.

I don't want pornography on CathInfo, even if that pornography is currently making headlines. The fact that it's notorious or famous pornography changes nothing.

Matto · « **Reply #1 on:** January 13, 2015, 11:54:40 AM »

And worse than pornography, blasphemy.

ggreg · « **Reply #2 on:** January 13, 2015, 12:13:31 PM »

It's very sad that this isn't self evident.

How someone can argue about the rubrics of '62 or BOD or EENS or pope Francis and then post that cartoon on two occasions I find baffling as well as sad.

Pope Francis would not post that and he is a notorious modernist Liberal.

claudel · « **Reply #3 on:** January 13, 2015, 12:16:55 PM »

Here is a related cartoon that is neither pornographic nor blasphemous. It's just truthful, unlike virtually everything else having to do with the Paris attacks and their aftermath. (For better or worse, I have no idea how to embed images in a thread.)

PereJoseph · « **Reply #4 on:** January 13, 2015, 12:40:47 PM »

Quote from: claudel

Here is a related cartoon that is neither pornographic nor blasphemous. It's just truthful, unlike virtually everything else having to do with the Paris attacks and their aftermath. (For better or worse, I have no idea how to embed images in a thread.)

I think that that is the biggest problem with the Charlie Hebdo demonstrations. The West will not be saved by marches for press freedom. We need to demonstrate, or, rather, take action, against Mohammedanism. That's the true story behind what happened. It wasn't an attack on freedom of the press. It was an attack by Mohammedans to enforce their religion on others; freedom of the press is incidental to the bigger issue. In any reconstituted Catholic country, too, blasphemy against Our Lord and His saints would be punished.

The real issue is a war between two competing powers, Liberalism and Mohammedanism. Their victory would mean nothing but the continuing ruin of what remains. The attacks have shown the impotence of the liberal republics and their principles, which are the death of nations. Hopefully, enough young Frenchmen will see this such that they will be receptive to other solutions. Christendom and our countries will never be saved under the underwhelming banner of "press freedom."

Thurifer · « **Reply #5 on:** January 13, 2015, 12:54:50 PM »

Quote from: claudel

Here is a related cartoon that is neither pornographic nor blasphemous. It's just truthful, unlike virtually everything else having to do with the Paris attacks and their aftermath. (For better or worse, I have no idea how to embed images in a thread.)

Here you go, Claudel:

Matthew · « **Reply #6 on:** January 13, 2015, 01:29:39 PM »

Quote from: ggreg

It's very sad that this isn't self evident.

How someone can argue about the rubrics of '62 or BOD or EENS or pope Francis and then post that cartoon on two occasions I find baffling as well as sad.

Pope Francis would not post that and he is a notorious modernist Liberal.

Matthew chapter 23:

[23] Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you tithe mint, and anise, and cuмmin, and have left the weightier things of the law; judgment, and mercy, and faith. These things you ought to have done, and not to leave those undone. [24] Blind guides, who strain out a gnat, and swallow a camel. [25] Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you make clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but within you are full of rapine and uncleanness.

That's why I'm bothered by people nit-picking about doctrinal purity and all that (as an excuse for condemning and arguing with others, of course).

In the end, they usually fall guilty of something much worse -- posting images of blasphemy, in this case.

That's the problem with mis-placed priorities, including scruples. While the devil convinces you to purify this sand over here, some armed troops come right in the main gate and wreak havoc on the town you were supposed to be guarding (your soul)...

In other words, the danger of scruples and mis-placed effort is NOT in being too pure -- it's in the distraction it causes. The whole thing is a "diversion" in military terms, so the devil sneaks in with a massive column of tanks over here and does massive damage that could take you straight to hell in the end...

claudel · « **Reply #7 on:** January 13, 2015, 02:39:09 PM »

Quote from: Thurifer

Here you go, Claudel.

Je vous remercie!

poche · « **Reply #8 on:** January 13, 2015, 10:29:46 PM »

In the French language forums some people are questioning whether France should have freedom of expression at all. Charlie Hedbo was not only pornographic it was also militantly athiestic.

Matto · « **Reply #9 on:** January 13, 2015, 10:38:58 PM »

Quote from: poche

In the French language forums some people are questioning whether France should have freedom of expression at all. Charlie Hedbo was not only pornographic it was also militantly athiestic.

I do not believe in freedom of expression. I think all speech against the true religion should be banned. If the state is Catholic, then I believe all speech against the state should also be banned.

poche · « **Reply #10 on:** January 13, 2015, 10:53:10 PM »

Pierre-Louis of Jeunecatholiquesdetradition had this to say about being Charlie Hebdo;

To be or not to be Charlie ... It is true that they are much mocked all religions. They said that if we are believers, is that we do not have a brain. But yesterday the many believers who marched in all the cities of France have proved at least they have a heart.

http://jeunescatholiques.forumgratuit.org/t791-etre-ou-ne-pas-etre-charlie

poche · « **Reply #11 on:** January 13, 2015, 10:56:37 PM »

Quote from: Matto

Quote from: poche
In the French language forums some people are questioning whether France should have freedom of expression at all. Charlie Hedbo was not only pornographic it was also militantly athiestic.

I do not believe in freedom of expression. I think all speech against the true religion should be banned. If the state is Catholic, then I believe all speech against the state should also be banned.

We all should havev the liberty to proclaim the truth that is the Catholic Faith.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #12 on:** January 14, 2015, 02:01:07 AM »

"Where the spirit of The Lord is, there is Liberty" 2 Corinthians 3:17.

Je aime Dieu et Notre-Dame!

B from A · « **Reply #13 on:** January 14, 2015, 09:17:00 AM »

Quote from: Matto

Quote from: poche
In the French language forums some people are questioning whether France should have freedom of expression at all. Charlie Hedbo was not only pornographic it was also militantly athiestic.

I do not believe in freedom of expression. I think all speech against the true religion should be banned. If the state is Catholic, then I believe all speech against the state should also be banned.

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With this is blended the liberty of the press — the most fatal liberty, an execrable liberty, for which there never can be sufficient horror, and which certain men dare so loudly and earnestly to demand and extend everywhere. We shudder, venerable brethren, when we consider the monstrous doctrines, or rather prodigies of error, with which we are overwhelmed; errors disseminated far and wide by an immense multitude of books, pamphlets, and other publications, small indeed in bulk, but enormous in perversity, giving rise to the malediction which covers the face of earth and causes our incessant tears.

from:
MIRARI VOS
ON LIBERALISM AND RELIGIOUS INDIFFERENTISM
ENCYCLICAL OF POPE GREGORY XVI
AUGUST 15, 1832

Emitte Lucem Tuam · « **Reply #14 on:** January 14, 2015, 05:48:18 PM »

You know, I abhor the recent terrorist attack in France. Muslim blasphemers need to repent and be converted to the Holy Catholic Faith - there is absolutely NO wiggle room there. BUT, the current nation of FRANCE is not, in any way, shape or form, the epitome of so-called "freedom" and "democracy". France's so-called "democracy" and "freedoms" came about under the threat of the guillotine, revolution and the MURDERING of the French Royal Family and their rightful claim to the doctrine of the Divine Right of Kings . So much for freedom, eh?. France is not the "be all" and "end all" of human decency and conservative democracy - it is a far cry to call France the founder of modern democracy.