Author Topic: Divine Mercy (Read 744 times)

steelcross · « **on:** February 18, 2015, 01:39:47 AM »

What does everyone think about this devotion?

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1 on:** February 18, 2015, 05:19:19 AM »

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Before the revolution of Vat.II there was a bit more cool-headedness in the higher clergy, to the effect that they were not afraid to say what Catholic Tradition would dictate regarding key topics of doctrine.

When it came to the "divine mercy devotions," the point is, there was a danger to the Faithful inasmuch as these "devotions" could obfuscate the pernicious character of the deadly sin of presumption. Since the shepherds of the Church, the watchmen on the wall, were supposed to warn everyone when danger was nigh, it would be proper for them to denounce the "divine mercy devotions" as a DANGER to the Faith of Catholics, since by its incessant repetition of "...for the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world," it could lead the devotee to presume that simply by repeating this prayer that a sort of "vending machine" product (of God's mercy) could be obtained.

There is nothing wrong with begging God for His mercy.

But there is a difference for example, in the Eastern tradition and the West, whereby the multitude in the St. Chrysostom rites that say "Lord have mercy" about 40 times 40 times, is mitigated in the West, with a beautiful parlay of 3 x 3, reminiscent of the Blessed Trinity. Please note, the Wreckovationists post Vat.II abhorred this marvelous, wondrous Tradition (the Latin Kyrie) so much they attacked it by deleting the third rep, leaving us with two (instead of three).

So you see, it's not a question of asking God too many times for mercy, or of "useless repetition," rather, it's a question of passing down the Tradition we have received. That is, ask not whether the number of times you pray to God for mercy is appropriate; ask whether your prayer is faithful to the Sacred Tradition of your forefathers.

What the Vat.II revolution gave us is PROVABLE by historical fact, that the revolutionaries don't care WHAT you do, so long as it's not what was done before the revolution................

ANYTHING BUT faithfulness to Tradition.

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steelcross · « **Reply #2 on:** February 18, 2015, 07:27:45 AM »

Thank you neil, your answer was more direct and informative than other places I searched. The prayers seem simple. Is this chaplet truly taking away from tradition? Some say it is a counterfeit to the Sacred Heart. Is there any real harm in adding this devotion? The Chaplet only takes at least five minutes and focuses on Jesus Passion. I also understand that there was controversy on St. Faustina as well. I am concerned for my soul and my families, which is why I am researching this. I do my best to pray the Rosary everyday, and I know the necessity of the Sacrament of Confession, I go as often as I can. God bless you. †

TKGS · « **Reply #3 on:** February 18, 2015, 11:23:02 AM »

I think that the Divine Mercy chaplet came about as an attempt to supplant the Rosary. I have heard of several instances in which this chaplet was recited instead of the Rosary--or, at least, people asked that it be recited instead of the Rosary--because it takes much less time to recite.

The fact that the Holy Office condemned the devotion prior to Vatican 2 only to have Wojtyla resurrect it and encourage it makes me suspicious of the devotion.

And that, my friend, is "everyone's" opinion.

Matto · « **Reply #4 on:** February 18, 2015, 12:30:15 PM »

I thought that the devotion was forbidden by both Pius XII and John XXIII. Then it was allowed and promoted by John Paul II the notorious. So I think it is bad. The devotion seems to me to lead to presumption because it promises lots of mercy without the suffering that all Children of Christ are supposed to undergo as punishment for their sins and also to sanctify themselves in this world or the next. The Cross is missing.

I am not an expert on the devotion because I have never read her diaries. I have read several articles which condemn the Divine Mercy devotion which have in them strange quotes from Faustina's diary. One article was by the Dimond Brothers, one was from the SSPX and I think one was from Tradition in Action.