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validity of Novus Ordo sacraments ? ( Baptism or confirmation )
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2014, 01:16:00 PM »
I also found the priest in the independent church to be strange.   he says the priest baptized me is not validly ordained priest, because he was ordained by Normal Catholic church in Novus Ordo.  Therefore, he did not performed valid baptism in proper way.   I heard same priest often do not give absolution or gave perpetual penance that never end , The sin would be never forgiven.  He also said he is the only true priest out of ## in that independent church.  Other priests are not teaching well, so on.  He even said he is the only priest can lead people to heaven.  I think he was trying to get people to attend his Mass.  After that I went back to Diocese Mass.  it is too bad, because I liked other priest very much, just one priest made me not going to that independent church at all,  I heard many other decide to go to Diocese mass because of the same priest giving them hard time.  recently there is SSPX church near by within driving distance.   so I was thinking of trying them out, I heard many sermon from SSPX priest on youtube, they are pretty good and easy to understand.  but, I was afraid if I ended up similar situation I experienced at independent church.  that Novus Ordo sacrament are All invalid so on.  so I was asking this question.

validity of Novus Ordo sacraments ? ( Baptism or confirmation )
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2014, 01:46:39 PM »
Based on this information, I would not attend the independent chapel.  However, I would not attend the diocesan indult either because their priestly orders are, at best, doubtful and they are part and parcel of the Conciliar church.  You should attend the SSPX chapel that you say is nearby or continue to search for other options.

This is a sad situation, but do not allow the bad to drive you to just as bad (i.e., a cultish independent priest driving you to the protestant Conciliar church).


validity of Novus Ordo sacraments ? ( Baptism or confirmation )
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2014, 02:16:28 PM »
I often wonder if that Independent priest are trying to destroy Traditional Latin mass rather than promoting it.   practically,  if new parishioner come to this independent church ( priest ).  he will first tell them , they are not Catholic.  and if they happen to go to confession with him, he will give them very strict penance such as perpetual penance.   That new parishioner soon return to Diocese Latin Mass or Novus Ordo.  and the same time, he give impression Latin Mass church are strange cult type.  The same priest yell and scream during homily, as loud as he can, and amplified audio get distorted.     He remind of me screaming preacher from other church, not seen in Catholic church.  Other priests who share same chapel are exactly opposite, nice , calm and believe Novus Ordo Baptism and other Sacraments are valid.  but, since different priest take turn on giving mass,  you don't know who will be the priest offering mass until parishioner show up that day.  so by avoiding one priest, I have to avoid entire chapel at once.

validity of Novus Ordo sacraments ? ( Baptism or confirmation )
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2014, 02:30:22 PM »
Yes, I'd probably avoid that independent priest. Baptisms are valid if done correctly, don't let the priest trick you. Orders are irrelevant.