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Traditional Catholic Faith => General Discussion => Topic started by: Truth is Eternal on May 08, 2016, 09:56:41 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KXzgeq1BuA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KXzgeq1BuA
I disagree.
First of all, we have found skeletons of many beasts that no longer walk the earth. It is not logical to pretend dinosaurs didn't exist. This strikes me as the product of a timid, fearful creationist hiding under his bed.
No, there were plenty of large skeletons unearthed. They weren't from millions of years ago, but they do exist. Evolutionists didn't just "make up" the dinosaurs. What they made up was the fable about how long ago they lived, and that none of them ever saw a human being.
In fact, even human beings were taller before the Flood. As a species, we are de-volving if anything, in terms of strength, robustness, health, and intelligence.
According to Hovind, a.k.a. "Dr. Dino", dinosaurs did exist but they were contemporaneous with man. Like other wild beasts, they were eradicated by men (out of necessity) as they colonized the earth.
Also, the larger ones wouldn't be able to survive after the Flood due to the changes in climate, atmospheric pressure, and the composition of the atmosphere.
Since the Flood caused an unprecedented amount of water (with lots of dissolved minerals in it, since the fountains of the deep were shooting up at very high pressure from the earth, which eroded a lot of rock) it's no surprise that a lot of dinosaurs' bones would be trapped and fossilized in that layer of the geological record.
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The descriptions of Behemoth and Leviathan in the Book of Job remind me of dinosaurs.
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The descriptions of Behemoth and Leviathan in the Book of Job remind me of dinosaurs.
This seems to me to be some of the giants.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KXzgeq1BuA
I disagree.
First of all, we have found skeletons of many beasts that no longer walk the earth. It is not logical to pretend dinosaurs didn't exist. This strikes me as the product of a timid, fearful creationist hiding under his bed.
No, there were plenty of large skeletons unearthed. They weren't from millions of years ago, but they do exist. Evolutionists didn't just "make up" the dinosaurs. What they made up was the fable about how long ago they lived, and that none of them ever saw a human being.
In fact, even human beings were taller before the Flood. As a species, we are de-volving if anything, in terms of strength, robustness, health, and intelligence.
According to Hovind, a.k.a. "Dr. Dino", dinosaurs did exist but they were contemporaneous with man. Like other wild beasts, they were eradicated by men (out of necessity) as they colonized the earth.
Also, the larger ones wouldn't be able to survive after the Flood due to the changes in climate, atmospheric pressure, and the composition of the atmosphere.
Since the Flood caused an unprecedented amount of water (with lots of dissolved minerals in it, since the fountains of the deep were shooting up at very high pressure from the earth, which eroded a lot of rock) it's no surprise that a lot of dinosaurs' bones would be trapped and fossilized in that layer of the geological record.
This.
Also, the Kolbe Center is a traditional Catholic organization that claims to have discovered dinosaur bones with actual blood and tissue in them, and carbon dated them to younger than 10,000 years.
If dinosaurs are a hoax, this group must also be a hoax.
Is that what you're saying?
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The descriptions of Behemoth and Leviathan in the Book of Job remind me of dinosaurs.
This seems to me to be some of the giants.
Behemoth has a tail and Leviathan breathes fire. (http://kolbecenter.org/historical-evidence-for-dinosaur-and-human-co-existence/)
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truth is eternal - I am with you. I don't believe dinosaurs existed. I believe that they are fabricated, planted, dug up, and then placed in museums.
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Oh brother.
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The only thing that was invented was the name, "dinosaur". Dragons, behemoths, and other creatures clearly existed and it is simply untrue to claim that no one had ever found the bones of these creature before the "enlightened" scientists invented the word.
This video is as stupid as the video that was posted a few months ago that claimed that airline schedules "prove" the earth is actually flat and cannot be circuмnavigated.
The reason things like this are a problem is because godless people tend to think of people who hold such views representative of Christians in general in much the same way as anti-sedevacantists tend to think of the Dimond Brothers as representative of sedevacantists in general. People use such idiocy as a crutch for not accepting Truth.
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Also, the larger ones wouldn't be able to survive after the Flood due to the changes in climate, atmospheric pressure, and the composition of the atmosphere.
The larger ones were killed off during the flood because they wouldn't fit on the ark. Noah put two creatures of every "kind" onto the ark, so various smaller dinosaur types (e.g. lizards) would have made it on board while their larger cousins would have been eradicated.
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Of course they existed.
The Chinese have always used fossilized bones in general to make medicine, among these are what they believe to be "dragon bones". They are in fact dinosaur bones they find by chance plowing their fields etc. and being practical people (as peasants tend to be) they grind them down to powder for personal use and sell the surplus at market, rather than report their find to an institution. You can acquire authentic "dragon bone" yourself provided you can find a reputable dealer, most of what's available on the market now is merely oyster shell.
This isn't to say however there isn't a lot of fraud on the part of museums etc. passing of replicas and fabricated sculptures as authentic specimens. That has been going on since the beginning; Piltdown Man being an example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piltdown_Man
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truth is eternal - I am with you. I don't believe dinosaurs existed. I believe that they are fabricated, planted, dug up, and then placed in museums.
Just like you don't exist? After all, we have no proof of it. We have never seen you, smelled you, tasted you or felt you. We have no scientific evidence that you are not an advanced program. Are you? :roll-laugh1:
I remember listening to a professor talk about Dinosaur being a new word. In Old English the word was Dragoon. I suppose St. George killing dragons was a hoax too?
I also remember seeing something written by Marco Pollo from when he was in China, i.e. Cathay, that the Emperor had his chariot pulled by dragons. In vernacular American English this would be Dinosaur.
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Since the Flood caused an unprecedented amount of water (with lots of dissolved minerals in it, since the fountains of the deep were shooting up at very high pressure from the earth, which eroded a lot of rock) it's no surprise that a lot of dinosaurs' bones would be trapped and fossilized in that layer of the geological record.
I forget which of my Catholic Flood books says it, but it says the waters also came from above - instantaneously, and I don't mean rain - through the dome of the Heavens that holds back the waters above.
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There are also written records of villages in England in the 13th century and all the way up to the 17th century describing problems with "dragons", which they had to kill.
There have been several contemporary 20th century pterodactyl sightings in parts of the southwest and Illinois.
I think there were probably many reptilian-type creatures, bird-like creatures, and elephant/rhino-type creatures who were much larger pre-Flood, whose fossils all get lumped together and called "dinosaurs."
However, I think if we could "flesh them out" they would look like the corresponding alligator-type, bird-type, rhino-type, etc. and not look at all like what paleontolgists are calling "dinosaurs."
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Since the Flood caused an unprecedented amount of water (with lots of dissolved minerals in it, since the fountains of the deep were shooting up at very high pressure from the earth, which eroded a lot of rock) it's no surprise that a lot of dinosaurs' bones would be trapped and fossilized in that layer of the geological record.
I forget which of my Catholic Flood books says it, but it says the waters also came from above - instantaneously, and I don't mean rain - through the dome of the Heavens that holds back the waters above.
Yes, I didn't treat the issue in depth. If I had more time I would have mentioned the Water Canopy which covered the earth with a much thicker atmosphere which blocked a LOT more UV rays. This would have caused higher atmospheric pressure, which would give much more health, vigor and potential size of creatures.
The water canopy would have blocked even more of the sun's harmful rays, which would cause men to live for hundreds of years. Cells wouldn't age nearly as fast.
You have to admit, the human body is designed to live nearly forever, the way it can repair itself so well. It's a very well designed machine. It's strange that by the time a man is fully grown, he immediately starts to decay. This wasn't God's original plan.
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There are also written records of villages in England in the 13th century and all the way up to the 17th century describing problems with "dragons", which they had to kill.
There have been several contemporary 20th century pterodactyl sightings in parts of the southwest and Illinois.
I think there were probably many reptilian-type creatures, bird-like creatures, and elephant/rhino-type creatures who were much larger pre-Flood, whose fossils all get lumped together and called "dinosaurs."
However, I think if we could "flesh them out" they would look like the corresponding alligator-type, bird-type, rhino-type, etc. and not look at all like what paleontolgists are calling "dinosaurs."
I agree with you. :wink:
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Dinosaurs Never Existed!
Well, that is quite a revelation. I suppose your assertion must be true; after all, you've chosen to call yourself "Truth is Eternal".
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But when you can't trouble yourself to provide even an abstract--plain text--for a video to which you link, it bears so little authority that it might as well be recommended by Bart Simpson or the  Cardassian  Kardashian sisters. So I refuse to waste my time--and computing resources--by watching it. And of course, any link that's offered with no explanation whatsoever might really be to malware.
But perhaps you can help me understand your issue without the video: Where--exactly--is this existential dogma stated in the Gospels, Patristic literature, or the traditional Magisterium, e.g., in writings of the Doctors of the Church, or in papal papal encyclicals?[/i] 
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I think this is the best video presenting the case - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhDkTXYt6z0. It is part 1 of a 2 part video. And, I think in part 2 they show a real live modern media dig hoax in action. It is the recent wolly mammoth discovery. And, there is the classic Freudian slip by the discoverer land owner on film confessing that it is a hoax. It is the same script used with sandy hook and all of these modern hoaxes. They admit it on camera right in front of you.