Indeed, their interpretations of Revelation might seem to be probable taken at face value, but I think what detracts a lot from their credibility is Dimond's position of Fatima - according to them Pope Pius XII's 1952 Consecration of Russia was valid, we already had period of piece which Our Lady promised (even though 1952 the world is constantly at war) and conversion of Russia was "conversion to peace", not to the Catholic faith (which runs against clear words of Our Lady and history of Marian apparitions), which is grasping at straws in attempt to squeeze Fatima into their end-times interpretation of Revelation and Malachy's prophecy.

I do thank the Dimonds for citing “Our Lady of Fatima” by William Thomas Walsh (1891-1949). Bought the book to give me a ‘jolt’ from Traditional malaise.

“That Lady said that many souls go to hell…" “and people go there who commit sins and don’t confess them, and they stay forever and burn.” …”Jacinta, what are you thinking of? Asked Lucia one day. “Of that war that is going to come, and of so many people who are going to die and go to Hell.” … pg. 88,89

And as a counter (for me at least) to the pop culture I live in; in particular to fighting the Naturalism surrounding my state in life.

“How must we sacrifice?” asked Lucia. “With all your power offer a sacrifice as an act of reparation for the sinners by whom He is offended, and of supplication for the conversion of sinners…Above all accept and endure with submission the suffering which the Lord will send you.” pg. 39

Grant it, this is nothing striking in the spiritual realm; but knowing myself,  I easily complain of the little trials God sends me and too attached to creature comforts...and the below is a reminder to me to re-interpret a 'cross' - away from a naturalistic viewpoint, to instead a supernatural view (hopefully I'm in the state of grace); to that so called "supernatural gold."

“Sacrifice yourselves for sinners,” she repeated, “and say many times, especially when you make some sacrifice: “O’ Jesus, it is for your love, for the conversion of sinners and in reparation for the sins committed against the Immaculate Heart of Mary.” pg. 80

I fear too, that being a Traditionalist, I can be too smug (proud); especially when comparing myself to non-Traditionalist; but back then - this was before Vatican II and all the Masses and Catholics were in essence, "traditional," ...just blown away of a 'girl' who would be in Purgatory till the end of the world...wonder what sins she committed?

“Heaven! Lucia suddenly remembered two girls who had died recently. They were friends of her family, and used to go to her house to learn weaving from her sister Maria. ‘Is Maria da Neves now in Heaven? She asked. “Yes, she is.” And Amelia? “She will be in purgatory until the end of the world.” Purgatory! The end of the world!....pg. 51.

I have listened to and researched 90 percent of the Dimond's material and I can't find any heresy or error. Sure, they have a lot of opinions on prophecy, that are neither here nor there. Their opinions on prophecy are very interesting, but not infallible. I have read from those who try to "debunk" the Dimonds and their material is nonsense. I challenge someone to post something credible that refutes them point by point. These two totally shred all of their opponents. I am not a "devotee of the Dimonds", but i am a student of the Church for over 30 years. Theses two aren't going to win any popularity contests by their "bedside  manor", but hey, the truth hurts sometimes. On the subject of the faith they don't invent anything. They just bring up dogma and doctrine that has already been settled or proclaimed. 

Many of the Church Fathers say that the chastisement precedes the period of peace, then after the peace is over, the time of the anti-christ comes.  The chastisement is NOT during the anti-christ's time, this is for sure.  Our Lady of Fatima does not talk about the anti-christ, but she does talk about a chastisement in the form of revolutions, martydoms and social upheavals (culminating in the 3 days of darkness, which is prophesized elsewhere).  The 3 days of darkness is NOT connected to the time of the anti-christ in any prophecy that i've ever read, so this is another sign that the time of the chastisement precedes the anti-christ.
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Some confusion arises when we hear of the "end times" and many people correlate this phrase to the time of the anti-christ only.  But many of the Church Fathers talk of these 3 time periods - the chastisement, the peace and the anti-christ - as the 'end times", because all together, they are connected.
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One thing that the Church Fathers are unanimous on, is that the Great Apostasy is not happening now because before the anti-christ comes, there are 6-7 different things that must happen to the world before his arrival.  One being that the whole world will be Catholic, which has not happened yet in all of history.  The USA has never been a catholic country.  Same with China, Japan, Thailand, etc.  The period of peace will be the time when the whole world will follow Christ and his Church like never before.  This is why when the anti-christ comes and seduces the world, it is called the "Great Apostasy" because all those who follow him into error actively reject catholicism.
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The Chastisement that we have seen since V2 and which may or may not culminate in persecutions, and possibly an outlawing of the mass for a time, is not the same as will happen under the anti-christ.  In our period, the trials we may face will be a precursor to those of the anti-christ, but not be as long or as encompassing.  In our period, Our Lady will triumph over satan's forces (i.e. Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ), while in the future, Christ will triumph over the anti-christ and satan himself.  In our period, Our Lady will save those countries and people who are catholic and then convert the world as a result of Her triumph.  In the future, Christ will save all countries and peoples and the world will end.  In our period, the mass may be outlawed in certain countries but not all (since it's not said everywhere).  In the future, the anti-christ will outlaw the mass for the entire world.
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The best explanation for all of this is that the Chastisement is the end of the 5th age of the Church, with the 6th age being the period of peace and the Age of Mary, and this peace followed by the rise of the anti-christ in the 7th and final age of the Church.  This is Ven Holzhauzer's explanation and it agrees very well with many prophecies and with the volumes written by the Church Fathers.

If the whole world witnessed the Chastisement and converted to Catholicism, why would they ever apostasise? It's an issue that confuses me. Also, which Church Fathers spoke of the Great Chastisement and the Period of Peace? I was under the impression that we get most of what we know about those from the prophecies of Saints and Marian Apparitions. That's all I can find when I google, anyway. 

If the whole world witnessed the Chastisement and converted to Catholicism, why would they ever apostasise? It's an issue that confuses me.

Most of the world will die during the chastisement and those left will be catholics and those non-catholics who will mostly convert (the exception being some Jєωs, since the Jєωs will not convert en masse until after the death of the anti-christ).  Then the whole world will be catholic there will be peace.  However...just like we witnessed in our times the fall of catholics from the 40s/50s to the post-V2 time of the 70s, this shows us that it can only take 1 generation (or 30-40 years) for people to forget their faith.  The answer, simply, is that the generation born post-Chastisement will 1) not know enough about the evils of the pre-chastisement world and/or 2) will not appreciate the Faith/peace that they enjoy and thus 3) their Faith will not be as strong and they will be also be spiritually weakened by the "good life" of peace and worldly prosperity.  They will fall victim to the anti-christ's errors because human nature doesn't change and the triumph of Our Lady will not mean as much to them as it will to us.
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Another aspect to all of this is that the transition period between the "period of peace" and the anti-christ will probably be 15-20 years or so.  The end of the period of peace is the death of the Great Monarch.  When he dies, then the Holy Roman Empire is divided up into 10 kingdoms and this is where Scripture says that the 10 kingdoms fight against each other and the anti-christ gains world fame by winning battles at a young age.  But he does not gain full world power until the age of 30, which mocks Christ's age at His time of public life.  So if the anti-christ is a military prodigy at, let's say, the age of 10-15, and he doesn't gain world power until 30, that means that we have 15-20 years of a transition period.
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If the period of peace is short (as many prophecies say), let's assume that's 20-25 years.  Add 15-20 more years of transition between the peace and the full reign of the anti-christ and you have 35-45 years.  At the time of the reign of the anti-christ and the start of the 3.5 year persecution, anyone younger than 35-45 years old would have absolutely no memory of the passion of the Church or the start of the Great Monarch's reign or the Chastisement or life before that.  Anyone younger than 45-55 would've been 10 years old when the Great Monarch died and also have a vague and childish memory of the Church in Her glory.  So it's easy to see how this generation could be led astray by many of the same errors which existed in our times/pre-chastisement, because these people didn't see such errors affect their daily lives like we do today.  They grew up in peace; they grew up with the Faith and didn't have to work for it.
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Just like we see the young generations of Tradition today, anyone younger than 40 does not remember V2.  They hardly remember the papacy of JPII (and if they do remember him, they don't remember his shockingly scandalous early days when he was hereticlly promoting the one-world religion and other crap).  They don't remember +ABL or when the sspx started in the 80s.  They don't know about the time period pre-indult, when modernist rome didn't allow any latin masses from 1970-1986.  They don't understand why older Trads are anti-indult, why older trads have a problem with the new ordinations, why older Trads have a problem with the FSSP.  Only those younger trads who study history, pray and listen to their elders have kept the Faith and stayed on the course of Tradition. 
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Under 40 trads today don't see a problem with the indult, they don't see a problem with a "conservatively said" novus ordo mass, they don't see a problem with +Benedict's error of interpreting V2 "in light of tradition".  They are too young to remember the post-V2 war for the Faith.  They are too young to appreciate sacrifices made to keep Tradition alive.  They are too young to appreciate what they have been given.  ...So it will be at the time of the rise of the anti-christ.  Our times are a parallel, a precursor, an echo of the times to come.
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Also, which Church Fathers spoke of the Great Chastisement and the Period of Peace? I was under the impression that we get most of what we know about those from the prophecies of Saints and Marian Apparitions. That's all I can find when I google, anyway. 

I don't know specifically but a book I read which summarized their writings, says that most of the Church Fathers talk about a period of peace before the reign of the anti-christ and this period will be when the Holy Roman Empire will return for the 3rd time in History (which ties into the Great Monarch prophecies). 

Very informative posts, thank you. I'll be sure to read up more on it later. 

Some quotes from the Church Fathers (and other saints) which support the coming Great Monarch and the return of the Holy Roman Empire.  Then the fall of the Roman Empire, and the rise of the anti-christ.  [my comments in blue]


St Methodius (4th cent) speaking of the a coming Great and Holy King

"A day will come when the enemies of Christ [freemasons] will boast of having conquered the whole world.  They will say, "Christians cannot escape now!"  But a great King will arise to fight the enemies of God.  He will defeat them, and peace will be given to the world, and the Church will be freed from Her anxieties."

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St Remigius (5th cent), Bishop of France who baptized King Clovis and 3,000 followers into the Faith in 496 AD.

"Take notice that the Kingdom of France is predestined by God for the defense of the Roman Church which is the only true Church of Christ.  This kingdom shall someday be great among the kingdoms of the earth, and shall embrace all the limits of the Roman Empire, and shall submit all other kingdoms to its own scepter."

[France has never held this much territory under its power.  It has never embraced all the limits of the Roman Empire.  If this prophecy is true, it is yet to come.]

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St Caesar of Arles, France (6th cent), Father of the Church, according to Jurgen's "Faith of the Early Fathers".  Presided over the 2nd Council of Orange in 529 AD against Pelagianism.

"When the entire world, and in a special way France - especially the provinces of the north, the east, and above all that of Lorraine and Champagne - shall have been laid waste by the greatest miseries and trials, then the provinces shall be comforted by a prince who had been exiled in his youth, and who shall recover the crown of the lilies.  This prince shall extend his dominion over the total universe. 

At the same time, by the will of God, a most holy man shall receive the Papacy, who will be most perfect in every spiritual perfection.  This Pope will have with him the great Monarch, the most virtuous man, who shall be an eminent leader of the holy line of French Kings.  This great Monarch shall assist the Pope in the reformation of the whole earth.  Many nations and their princes that are living in error and impiety shall be converted and an admirable peace shall reign among men during many years, because the wrath of God shall be appeased through their repentence, penance and good works.  There will be one common law, only one faith, one baptism, one religion.

All nations shall recognize the Holy See of Rome, and shall pay homage to the Pope.  But after an extended period of time, fervor will cool, inquity will abound and moral corruption shall become worse than ever before, which shall bring upon mankind the last and worst persecution of anti-christ and the end of the world."

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St Epheaem (5th cent): 

"Then the Lord from his glorious heaven shall set up His peace.  And the kingdom of the Romans [Roman Empire] shall rise in place of this latter people, and establish its dominion upon the earth, even to its ends, and there shall be no one who will resist it. 

After iniquity shall have multiplied, and all creatures have become defiled, then Divine Justice shall appear, and shall wholly destroy the people, and coming forth from perdition, the man of iniquity [anti-christ] shall be revealed upon the earth, the Seducer of men, and the distruber of the whole earth."

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St Catald(us)  (7th cent): 

"The Great King will wage war till he is 40 years of age.  He will assemble great armies and hurl back the tyrants out of his empire."

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Rabanus Maurus  (9th cent), the most thorough chronicler of both prophecy and Oral Tradition in Western Europe.  He was abbot of the famous Benedictine Monastery in Fulda.  According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, "His fame as a teacher spread all over Europe.  He was the most learned man of his age.  In scripture and patristic knowledge, he had no equal and was thoroughly conversant in canon law and liturgy."

"Our principle Doctors [teachers of the Faith] agree in telling us, that towards the end of time one of the descendents of the kings of France shall reign over all the Roman Empire; and that he shall be the greatest of the French Monarchs and the last of his race.  After having governed well his kingdom, he shall go to Jerusalem and lay down his scepter and crown at Mt Olivet.  This shall be the conclusion of the Roman and Christian Empire."

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St Anslem  (11th cent), Doctor of the Church 

"Certian Doctors [esteemed teachers of the Faith] truly say, that one of the kings of the Frankish Empire shall possess it in its entirety, which King shall live in the last time and shall be the greatest and last of kings.  Who after he shall have happily governed his Kingdom, shall come to Jerusalem and lay down his scepter and crown on Mt Olivet.  He shall be the last and consummate Emperor of the Roman and Christian Empire.

And immediately thereupon [after he lays down his scepter/crown], according to the sentence of Paul, they [esteemed teachers of the Faith] say antichrist will come."

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St Thomas a'Becket (12th cent)

"A knight shall come from the West.  He shall capture Milan, Lombardy and the three Crowns [Italy].  He shall then sail to Cyprus and Famagoste and land at Jaffa [the oldest part of Tel Aviv, Israel], and reach Christ's grave, where he will fight.  Wars and wonders shall befall until the people believe in Christ toward the end of the world."

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St Hildegard (12th cent)

...There are so many prophecies from St Hildegard that you can look them up yourself.


William D'Otrante (13th cent), an abbot of a monastery in Southern Italy

"The Great Monarch and the great pope will preceed anti-christ.  The nations will be at war for 4 years and a great part of the world will be destroyed.  The pope will go over the sea carrying the sign of Redemption on his forehead.  The Great Monarch will come to restore peace and the Pope will share the victory.  Peace will reign on earth."

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John of Vatiguerro (13th cent)

"Spoilation, pillaging and devastation of that most famous city which is the capital and mistress of France [Paris] will take place when the Church and the world are grievously troubled.  The Pope will change his residence and the Church will not be defended for 25 months or more, because during all that time, there will be no Pope in Rome, no emperor and no ruler in France.  But, after this, a young captive Prince shall recover the Crown of the Lilies and shall extend his dominion all over the world."

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St Vicent Ferrer (14th cent), known as the "Angel of Judgement" spoken of in the Apocalypse.

"Armies from the East, West and North will fight together in Italy and the Eagle [Great Monarch] shall capture the false king, and all things shall be made obedient unto him, and there shall be a new reformation in the world."

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Concerning the Fall of the Roman Empire and the rise of the anti-christ...


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St Cyril of Jerusalem (4th cent):  Speaking of the fall of the Roman Empire and the rise of the anti-christ

"Since the true Christ is to come a second time, the adversary makes use of the expectation of the simple, and especially of those of the circuмcision [the joos]; and he brings in a certain man who is a magician, and who is quite expert in sorceries and enchantments of beguiling craftiness.  This one shall seize the power of the Roman Empire, and shall falsely style himself Christ.  By the name of Christ he shall deceive the joos, who are expecting the Annointed and he shall seduce the gentiles by his magical illusions.

This aforementioned anti-christ is to come when the times of the Roman Empire have been fulfilled and the end of the world is drawing near.  There shall rise up together ten kings of the Romans, reigning in different parts, perhaps, but all reigning at the same time.  After these there shall be an eleventh, the anti-christ, who by the evil power of magic [false miracles] shall seize upon the Roman Power.  Of the kings who reigned before him, 3 shall be humble and the remaining 7 he shall have as subjects under him [see book of Daniel].  He shall desplay against all men and especially against Christians, a spirit that is murderous and most cruel, merciless and wily.  For three years and six months only shall he be the perpetrator of such things.

Now these things we teach not of our own ingenuity...that this kingdom is that of the Romans has been the tradition of the Church's interpreters..."

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St John Chrysostom (4th cent): 

"In the same way as those kingdoms which existed before the Roman Empire were destroyed (the Babylonian by the Persian, the Persian by the Greek, the Greek by the Roman), so will the Roman Empire be destroyed by anti-christ.  This will happen when the Roman Empire shall have been divided into 10 kingdoms [after the Holy Monarch dies]."

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St Jerome (4th cent)...in his commentary on the Book of Daniel:

"Therefore, let us state what all the Ecclesiastical writers [omnes scriptores ecclesiastici] have passed down [tradiderunt]: At the consummation of the world, when the Kingdom of the Romans has been destroyed, when ten kings shall have divided the territory of the Romans between themselves, an eleventh shall rise to a small kingdom, who when he shall have overcome three of the ten kings, i.e. the kingdom of the Egyptians, of the Africans and of the Ethiopians and consequently as we learn more manifestly - whom he shall have killed, the other seven kings shall submit their necks to the victor [the eleventh king].

Who is the eleventh king?  St Jerome explains:

"Nor do we think him to be the Devil or a demon, as some others do, but one of mankind in whom satan shall dwell totally...his mouth uttering great boasts, for he is the man of sin, the son of perdition, such that he will seat himself in the Temple as if he were God.  [Here Jerome is directly quoting from St Paul's description of the anti-christ in 2nd Thessalonians, 2:15]

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There are many, many, many more where this came from.

How the above relates to what Socci found cannot be reconciled:

At around 4 p.m. on January 3, 1944, in the chapel of the convent, before the Tabernacle, Lucia asked Jesus to make known His will: “I then felt a friendly hand, maternal and affectionate, touch my shoulder.”

And the Mother of God said to her: “Be at peace, and write what I have commanded you, but not, however, that which has been given to you to understand its meaning,” intending to allude to the meaning of the vision which the Virgin herself had revealed.

Immediately afterward, said Sister Lucia, “I felt my spirit inundated by a mystery of light that is God and in Him I saw and heard: the point of a lance like a flame that is detached, touches the axis of the earth, and it trembles: mountains, cities, towns and villages with their inhabitants are buried. The sea, the rivers, the clouds, exceed their boundaries, inundating and dragging with them, in a vortex, houses and people in a number that cannot be counted. It is the purification of the world from the sin in which it is immersed. Hatred, ambition, provoke the destructive war. After I felt my racing heart, in my spirit a soft voice said: ‘In time, one faith, one baptism, one Church, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic. In eternity, Heaven!’ This word ‘Heaven’ filled my heart with peace and happiness in such a way that, almost without being aware of it, I kept repeating to myself for a long time: Heaven, Heaven.”

Antonio Socci
From Il Libero, August 17, 2014

nor that revealed at Akita:

“As I told you, if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never have seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead.

What man reveals is always questionable. What the Holy Virgin reveals cannot be questioned.