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Offline LaramieHirsch

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Diet is religion for some people
« on: June 23, 2012, 09:16:53 AM »
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  • Is it just me, or is there a growing number of people out there who seem to turn their precious diets into a religion?  And then, when they see that you are not eating like they do, they snub you, or tell you how you are supposed to eat...to a point almost like fanatacism?
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    Diet is religion for some people
    « Reply #1 on: June 23, 2012, 02:08:22 PM »
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  • I agree.  More and more people are adrift and disconnected from the true Faith.  But they are still religious by nature.  Religion has been defined as a "system of beliefs." So today we have people who worship at the altar of physical fitness, miracle diets, animal rights or "mother earth."







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    Diet is religion for some people
    « Reply #2 on: June 23, 2012, 07:33:55 PM »
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  • not to say that weight loss is bad ofcourse

    eat less move more
    can't tell if ninja

    or cryptotrad

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    Diet is religion for some people
    « Reply #3 on: June 25, 2012, 09:24:37 AM »
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  • Quote from: MrsZ
    I agree.  More and more people are adrift and disconnected from the true Faith.  But they are still religious by nature.  Religion has been defined as a "system of beliefs." So today we have people who worship at the altar of physical fitness, miracle diets, animal rights or "mother earth."






     :applause:
    I have noticed this for years!  There are many affluent people whose only form of personal discipline is an organic diet, recycling, pet rescues, indigenous plants and bicycling.

    They would make such good Catholics if they only knew!  A number of them are seriously ignorant and mis-informed.

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    Diet is religion for some people
    « Reply #4 on: June 25, 2012, 11:31:01 AM »
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    not to say that weight loss is bad ofcourse

    eat less move more


    run lots

    post here less


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    Diet is religion for some people
    « Reply #5 on: June 25, 2012, 12:18:41 PM »
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  • I'm kind of hoping I die in my 60s.  I've had a good innings, my children will be adults by then, my wife will get a decent life insurance payout and a good night's sleep and I'll get off this crazy ride, which as the days pass I find less and less enjoyable.

    Last thing I want to do is spend my late 80s and 90s in some nursing home wasting away while Pope gαylord III consecrates North Korea to the Universal Architect formally known as .Ω

    3 score years is enough for me.  4 score a little too much.

    Give me another sirloin steak and some fried onions.

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    Diet is religion for some people
    « Reply #6 on: June 25, 2012, 01:10:13 PM »
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  • Quote from: LaramieHirsch
    Is it just me, or is there a growing number of people out there who seem to turn their precious diets into a religion? And then, when they see that you are not eating like they do, they snub you, or tell you how you are supposed to eat...to a point almost like fanatacism?
    Well, if they do, they'll have to wait for my response in between gulps of domestic beer and tokes on a marlboro while I'm chowing down a t-bone.

    But, if they do, I then challenge them to a pushup  or arm-wrestling competition which I would effectively beat them ( Ok, usually) and defeat their diet/food deity and religion.

    But all kidding aside, I believe in PT, proper diet and nutrition as well but you're right, many of these people cater more to this discipline than their spiritual and eternal well being. I think also, it's because many of these type fear death and think they're going to live forever. if they do all the right things here in this world.

    They will be most disappointed.

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    « Reply #7 on: June 25, 2012, 01:29:06 PM »
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  • I had a friend in perfect shape die of cancer at 39. He never drank, smoked, or ate unhealthy foods. He ran seven miles a day. He is still dead. I had a great uncle that recently died at 80. He drank too much, smoked a pack a day, and ate fried foods. He walked with vigor; until, he dropped dead due to a heart attack. Genetics and family lineage play a great deal with how long someone will live. God has the ultimate voice in that.


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    « Reply #8 on: June 25, 2012, 01:31:56 PM »
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  • My friend "looked" like a magazine model prior to chemo and cancer. He still dropped dead at 39. His health food and exercise worship did not save him.

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    « Reply #9 on: June 25, 2012, 02:07:01 PM »
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  • Quote from: sedetrad
    I had a friend in perfect shape die of cancer at 39. He never drank, smoked, or ate unhealthy foods. He ran seven miles a day. He is still dead. I had a great uncle that recently died at 80. He drank too much, smoked a pack a day, and ate fried foods. He walked with vigor; until, he dropped dead due to a heart attack. Genetics and family lineage play a great deal with how long someone will live. God has the ultimate voice in that.
    I have seen the same.

    I knew who ran everyday and kept in terrific shape. She was a great woman, loving wife and mother who unexpectedly came down with cancer in her late thirties and died rather quickly, it was horrible, especially for her family.

    My little Irish grandmother had thirteen children, ate what she want, smoked and drank like a fish until the day she died.......at 98.

    Go figure.

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    « Reply #10 on: June 25, 2012, 02:22:08 PM »
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  • People who are faithless feel the loneliness in a truly deep-seated way and will seek out anything as a "religion - replacement".  This explains a lot of the -isms out there.


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    « Reply #11 on: June 25, 2012, 03:15:16 PM »
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  • There are many factors that go into whether someone is healthy or not.  Sometimes people have undiagnosed heart problems.  I have a pet theory about those who are on strict vegan diets and then run a marathon.  I think that pure vegetarianism puts a strain on our hearts, and also affects our muscle and tissue strength and replacement.  Plus, many runners eat "nutrition bars" and special sports drinks..both often loaded with sugar and highly refined carbs.  

    Then there's the issue of genetics, a big one.  Plus, sometimes these folks have hidden bad habits that no one knows about (bulimia, smoking...) you never know.  And sometimes there's a lot of stress in their lives.  Most secular folks are heavily burdened by the weight of living lives out of touch with their consciences.

    For me, hitting middle age now...I've lost interest in doing much running.  And I sure don't care very much about speed!  So I run a little, walk a lot and try to focus on a well rounded diet ... not restricting an entire food group for example.  And finally, I decided it was better to spend time praying every day rather than doing crunches, if I had to choose between the two due to time constraints.

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    « Reply #12 on: June 25, 2012, 05:02:44 PM »
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    I had a friend in perfect shape die of cancer at 39. He never drank, smoked, or ate unhealthy foods. He ran seven miles a day. He is still dead. I had a great uncle that recently died at 80. He drank too much, smoked a pack a day, and ate fried foods. He walked with vigor; until, he dropped dead due to a heart attack. Genetics and family lineage play a great deal with how long someone will live. God has the ultimate voice in that.
    I have seen the same.

    I knew who ran everyday and kept in terrific shape. She was a great woman, loving wife and mother who unexpectedly came down with cancer in her late thirties and died rather quickly, it was horrible, especially for her family.

    My little Irish grandmother had thirteen children, ate what she want, smoked and drank like a fish until the day she died.......at 98.

    Go figure.


    Your grandmother probably had more fun too.  Smoking, drinking and eating are pleasurable.  Let's not forget that.

    I don't smoke, but I do drink and eat and frankly it is one of the highlights of my day.  I really enjoy it.

    I don't like exercise.  It's boring and painful.

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    « Reply #13 on: June 25, 2012, 06:01:23 PM »
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    There are many factors that go into whether someone is healthy or not.  Sometimes people have undiagnosed heart problems.  I have a pet theory about those who are on strict vegan diets and then run a marathon.


    A lot of people who run and cycle seem to be very slight figured.  

     
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    I think that pure vegetarianism puts a strain on our hearts, and also affects our muscle and tissue strength and replacement.


    Yes, it has to wear them down over time.

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    Plus, many runners eat "nutrition bars" and special sports drinks..both often loaded with sugar and highly refined carbs.  


    Those sorts of things are a waste of money and a scam.  I feel very sorry for heavier people who follow much of the advice that's given by these sorts of companies - telling people they should eat often to keep their metabolism up - and selling things like "nutrition bars" and "shakes" - things that are liable to cause them to gain weight.  I mean it's common sense - if you're eating that junk it's liable to be in addition to what you would normally eat.  Dietetic quackery is a big problem.  That's not to say there aren't interesting alternative ideas about diet - but really tried and true simple ideas that go way back are best.

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    Then there's the issue of genetics, a big one.  Plus, sometimes these folks have hidden bad habits that no one knows about (bulimia, smoking...) you never know.  


    Smoking is really helpful in losing weight - not that Im doing it right now - but it really is very effective in suppressing appetite.

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    For me, hitting middle age now...I've lost interest in doing much running.


    My mother has never run in her entire life.  I've never seen her run at full speed.  I've seen her ride a bicycle once - just to show she could do it - that was nearly 30 years ago.  She's always been around 115 lbs and she's the same size she's always been.

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    And I sure don't care very much about speed!  So I run a little, walk a lot and try to focus on a well rounded diet ... not restricting an entire food group for example.  And finally, I decided it was better to spend time praying every day rather than doing crunches, if I had to choose between the two due to time constraints.


    Walking is best.