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Offline forlorn

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Did Tertullian die an apostate?
« on: February 19, 2019, 11:43:38 AM »
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  • Never really knew much about him but I was doing a bit of reading today and learned, to my shock, that despite fighting heresies most his life he eventually embraced some. But the article didn't make it clear if he ever abandoned them again. Wondering if anyone here knows.

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    Re: Did Tertullian die an apostate?
    « Reply #1 on: March 11, 2019, 03:38:36 AM »
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  • Never really knew much about him but I was doing a bit of reading today and learned, to my shock, that despite fighting heresies most his life he eventually embraced some. But the article didn't make it clear if he ever abandoned them again. Wondering if anyone here knows.
    In my personal view, he might have been seen as a heretic by the Church, without actually being a heretic. It seems really hard to he condemned as a heretic in the Early Church, when the doctrines of the Church was not yet clearly established. Why would someone be condemned for thinking he adhered to Church doctrines, without actually doing so? Who wants to be damned? Did Tertullian really want to be heretic? If he did not, then why would he be damned if the truly did try to serve God and please Him?
    If people can be mistaken today about the Church's doctrines today, why can't Tertullian have been?

    There is a reason for why God and many saints says we will be surprised about "who is in Heaven" when we die.
    My personal hope is that all souls will be saved (as Origen teaches), even if the Church teach otherwise. There is really nothing good about Hell (as even God himeself admits), since we would not want even our worst of children to be damned (if damned means "living in eternal misery"), even if we did not like them so much.
    Believe in mercy, hope and charity before damnation.


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    Re: Did Tertullian die an apostate?
    « Reply #2 on: March 11, 2019, 01:56:49 PM »
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  • IMO probably just a material heretic.  There weren't too many Church doctrines that were formally defined in those early days, so there was a lot more latitude to slip into objectively heretical propositions without recognizing them as such.  At the end of the day, only God really knows.

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    Re: Did Tertullian die an apostate?
    « Reply #3 on: March 11, 2019, 08:19:27 PM »
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  • I believe it is in Fr Parsons Church History V1 where he says the Origen story is complicated by the fact that( like Ramon Lull) there were TWO Origen's.  :cheers:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

     

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