Unfortunately, it's really bad. The Art Bell interviews alone have enough nails to bury him many times over. Still, there's more. Have nothing, absolutely nothing to do with this new-age fraud! Here are a few quotes I found while going over some of his various interviews:
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Fourth Art Bell Interview 1997
Wiccanized Catholicism
1:29:56
Witch: "At one time I was a Catholic, matter of fact with my religion I pulled some of my favorite saints into it too. because as you know with Wicca we encompass a lot of different religions."
MM: "I know you do, I know you do. But that's alright provided you honor Christ."
Witch: "Oh yes, it's a strange combination."
Dreamweaving
1:31:22
Witch: "Dreamweaving is when you send negative forces to people when they're sleeping."
MM: "That's right."
Witch: "Uh, you can control a person better when their defenses are down."
MM: "And in sleep their defenses are down."
Witch: "You can cause them great illness if they don't sleep properly."
MM: "Mmm-hmm."
Some people have gotten very paranoid."
MM: "They have."
Art: "Have you done that to people?"
Witch: "No Sir, I've put up bindings and wards to protect some people that I'm working with."
MM: "Good, good. You give them protection that they lack."
Good Werewolves
1:52:14
Lance: "Is it possible for a person to be a lycanthrope and not be evil?"
MM: "Yes, it is possible. Within the framework of your question I must say yes, it is possible. It is possible."
Lance: "In other words, can lycanthropy be kind of a gift?"
MM: "Yes it can be and like everything else it can have a good purpose or an evil purpose."
Catholic Witch Never Left the Church
2:07:03- 2:09:08
E-mail Feedback: "Fr. Martin, I'm a Catholic, respect you greatly but you said something that was a bit
disquieting. An earlier caller identified herself as not only someone who practices Wicca but she
said that she had left the Catholic Church. You said that was okay, what she was doing was okay
as long as she honored Christ. Correct me if I'm wrong or please clarify what you meant. How can
it be okay that she left the True Church for a pale imitation?"
MM: "Well, I don't think she left the True Church. That's the point. From what she was saying it
seems to me that she was deserting the organization as such, but if she honors Christ and honors
his mother, and prays, and is a good person morally, she has no more left the Church than I have.
What she is talking about is the organization which she found abhorrent for some reason or
other."
MM: "If she had said to me 'no, I practice Wicca and I worship the devils or worship idols or I
worship this world and, no, I don't have any belief or attachment to the Lord Jesus or to, as you
call Him, or to the Virgin Mary or the angels', that would be a different story. but you can't
say you've left the Church when you honor these people and when you live a moral life. She has
some reason for saying that."
MM: "I know so many people Art, who will tell me 'I absolutely hate the Catholic Church's
organization, its clergy, its bishops, its garbage' and then I find that they're very good
people! It's just that something bad hit them. They were maltreated, or unjustly treated, or they
were scandalized, but they're still within the Church of Christ. He still loves them. They belong
to Him still."
AB: "They don't have to be in the organization to be with Him?"
MM: "Not absolutely, they should be. If from some accident, personal accident, they exit from the
formal connection with the organization, they still belong to Christ."
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Michael Corbin Interview 1997
The "Middle Plateau"
1:54:32-1:57:45
MM: "The fact is, Michael, that Hitler's people and we follow him, we discovered that there are powers in human beings, latent powers that can be activated with training and, that's the first point. The second point is that those powers, the latent powers that can be activated with a special, very specialized training, those powers are those we associate with a preternatural condition like telekineses, telepathy, ah-"
MC: "Remote viewing?"
MM: "Yeah. There's a whole list of things, of powers, psychic powers as we call them-"
MC: "Mmm-hmmm."
MM: "They can be developed and they affect the physical person."
MC: "Are they innate in human beings or they an agency of this 'possession'?
MM: "N-n-n-no-no. They're innate because you see what we have is a torn nature."
MC: "But these forces or powers can use them against us."
MM: "Well, that's a big leap. But what the point I'm making is that our human nature is not in it's natural condition. It is some terrible depravation. We call it Original Sin in the Christian Church."
MC: "Uh-huh."
MM: "Um, but the power in there as it were latently, they are now you see, if you look at the question of the (inaudible) if you believe demons exist, there are demonic angels, angels that have been demonized. They are not supernatural they have nothing supernatural about them. Nor are they natural. They are on what we call the 'middle plateau.'"
MC: "They're stuck in between..."
MM: "The 'middle plateau' is the plateau on which what they exercise their psychic gifts. And what you find about possessed people, genuinely possessed people, is they have extraordinary psychic gifts. Extraordinary. And they're revoked by their master or their familiar or whatever form their demon possessing them takes. Um, now they have found that training these latent powers is very useful for certain types of special forces operations. But one side effect of the whole thing was to end up with phenomena that mimic possession so closely it is possession. And the rationale, it's only rationale behind that is that anything you have must be for the glory of God, the glory of Christ and serve the salvation of men."
MC: "And if it's not, it's serving Lucifer..."
MM: "And if it's not you're serving Lucifer."
MC: "Very interesting."
MM: "So, you know uh, that's the difficulty and I-I-I, the saddest thing I can ever find and I've met so often in the last 30, 40 years is people whom I know are being lead out of all salvation, out of all grace, out of all human hope by their psychic gifts being developed-"
MC: "Wow."
MM: "-by a familiar."
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Second Art Bell Interview 1996
Spends about 45 minutes speaking positively about Remote Viewing with a Remote Viewer "Major Ed Dames" from 0:35:01 to 1:20:12.
The Charism of Trained Remote Viewing
1:18:28
"I really do think that this is a charism that has been developed in Dames and his associates, if he has them who are like him um, and it is the work of God because it does enlighten us as to the shadowy personages that inhabit the Middle Plateau and that entrap people so that final(ly) they end up at my doorstep in a pitiable condition!"
Dames is still around apparently!
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Third Art Bell Interview 1997
More Middle Plateau
1:48:24 - 1:52:46
In between the natural and supernatural plains of existence where demons and certain "preternaturally" gifted people can access, such as psychics or Edgar Cayce.
Applewhite Wasn't Preternatural
2:49:00 - 2:51:13
Calls the Heaven's Gate a "Christian Heresy" and makes sure to state he doesn't think Applewhite had any preternatural gifts (using the Middle Plateau on his own power rather than demonic).
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