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Title: Croix de Fer - no more videos from Pastor Dowell
Post by: Matthew on June 30, 2018, 10:55:17 PM
I thought he was a Protestant -- they're heretics, but in America they're all over the place, and some of them have a lot of residual truth and Christian morality -- from the Bible they stole from the Catholic Church if nothing else.

But this guy is not a Protestant, because by definition a Protestant is a self-proclaimed follower of Christ but who rejects the authority (and many doctrines) of the Catholic Church, the Pope, etc.
In other words, a heretic.

However, Pastor Dowell is more like a Jew. He pretends as if the New Testament never happened. Only it DID happen. Jesus Christ, the Messiah, DID come. Now the Jews have their own demonic system by which they reject Christ (the тαℓмυd -- just read the filth that is contained therein -- or, on second thought, DON'T read it!)

So what does this guy say about Jesus Christ, I wonder? I probably don't want to know.

This guy seems to be 20% truth and 80% error. It's like digging through the city dump looking for scraps of food for nourishment. WE CAN DO BETTER. REALLY, WE CAN.

I don't care if he DOES have an awesome "compound" and survivalist paradise. You should see the footage of his garden, greenhouses, etc. on Youtube. He has an honest-to-goodness cult going on there!

But the fact is that he rejects Christ quite completely. Not just the Pope or the Church, but even Jesus Himself -- so "Pastor Dowell" is even worse than a Muslim (who at least say that Jesus was a good prophet).

The Muslims have a lot of natural law intact too -- are we that desperate for goodness, common sense, and natural law sanity that we are grovelling under the table, licking the floor for crumbs we might find there?

Like I said: We can do better. We better be able to!
Title: Re: Croix de Fer - no more videos from Pastor Dowell
Post by: ihsv on June 30, 2018, 11:03:15 PM
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Title: Re: Croix de Fer - no more videos from Pastor Dowell
Post by: JezusDeKoning on June 30, 2018, 11:29:07 PM
God bless you, Matthew. Finally, some common sense.
Title: Re: Croix de Fer - no more videos from Pastor Dowell
Post by: Croix de Fer on June 30, 2018, 11:29:53 PM

Anyway, I am glad to have awakened many men to the dangers of not getting a prenuptial agreement and the traps of getting a state marriage license.

Many were ignorant to the issue. It never crossed their minds.

This issue is now cemented into the consciousness and subconsciousness of the many men who came across the numerous threads. Even the ones who oppose it, now, the thought will grow on them that they, too, should consider such protective measures before getting married.  

Mission accomplished.



Title: Re: Croix de Fer - no more videos from Pastor Dowell
Post by: MaterDominici on June 30, 2018, 11:31:39 PM
A little work on your persuasive skills and you might have actually convinced someone.  ;)
Title: Re: Croix de Fer - no more videos from Pastor Dowell
Post by: Croix de Fer on June 30, 2018, 11:35:53 PM
A little work on your persuasive skills and you might have actually convinced someone.  ;)

On the contrary.

Controversy brings much attention, and my goal wasn't to persuade any woman, although at least one woman did tell me she basically agreed with me. The reality is it's not up to women. They really don't have the power before marriage. The man has the power to ditch the woman who doesn't agree to a prenup and demands a state marriage license. What matters is what men think and how they act on it. Now, they're more informed about the epidemic they face.
Title: Re: Croix de Fer - no more videos from Pastor Dowell
Post by: MaterDominici on June 30, 2018, 11:44:25 PM
On the contrary.

Controversy brings much attention, and my goal wasn't to persuade any woman, although at least one woman did tell me she basically agreed with me. The reality is it's not up to women. They really don't have the power before marriage. The man has the power to ditch the woman who doesn't agree to a prenup and demands a state marriage license. What matters is what men think and how they act on it. Now, they're more informed about the epidemic they face.
I basically agree with you too, but not thanks to you or your pastor. Pax Vobis made your case 100x better than you ever could. Nonetheless, I know I'd still be rooting for a marriage license and seriously doubt Matthew would ever object because there are financial advantages to being married and we're both cheap like that. He wouldn't pay a dime more on such a remote possibility... we live in a state with common law marriage and no alimony. Skipping a license has very little advantage as far as I can see.
Title: Re: Croix de Fer - no more videos from Pastor Dowell
Post by: Croix de Fer on July 01, 2018, 12:17:42 AM
I basically agree with you too, but not thanks to you or your pastor. Pax Vobis made your case 100x better than you ever could.
You fail to see that Pax Vobis wouldn't have made his comments, if it weren't for me raising the issues and posting about it in the first place. Also, you only say that because you have a bitterness lingering due to the abrasive truth spoken by me (or Dowell). So your preference for "who said it better" is a little biased.


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Nonetheless, I know I'd still be going with a marriage license and seriously doubt Matthew would ever object because there are financial advantages to being married and we're both cheap like that. He wouldn't pay a dime more on such a remote possibility...
That's your prerogative. It's all about what you place as a higher priority. It doesn't negate the fact that you're a slave to the state despite the tax breaks (essentially cheese in a mouse trap) and other "benefits" you might receive. That's all part of the lure to give up your sovereignty to the state.


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we live in a state with common law marriage and no alimony. Skipping a license has very little advantage as far as I can see.
That's why a prenuptial agreement is necessary in states with common law "marriages", too. You can get prenups in those states.
Title: Re: Croix de Fer - no more videos from Pastor Dowell
Post by: MaterDominici on July 01, 2018, 12:27:30 AM
Also, you only say that because you have a bitterness lingering due to the abrasive truth spoken by me (or Dowell). So your preference for "who said it better" is a little biased.
I see comedy is more your strong suit.  :jester:

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That's why a prenuptial agreement is necessary in states with common law "marriages", too. You can get prenups in those states.
I've never disagreed with that. I'd sign a "post-nup" right now. I only disagreed with a soon-to-be-married couple hammering out such details during their engagement. Get it written up and perfected before you meet the woman you hope will sign it. Have it signed and notarized by your priest as evidence for when and why you made it.
Title: Re: Croix de Fer - no more videos from Pastor Dowell
Post by: Croix de Fer on July 01, 2018, 12:53:08 AM
I only disagreed with a soon-to-be-married couple hammering out such details during their engagement. Get it written up and perfected before you meet the woman you hope will sign it. Have it signed and notarized by your priest as evidence for when and why you made it.
Good. Sound advice.
Title: Re: Croix de Fer - no more videos from Pastor Dowell
Post by: alaric on July 01, 2018, 05:17:46 AM
I was wondering when you were going to put a stop to that nonsense.
Title: Re: Croix de Fer - no more videos from Pastor Dowell
Post by: Jaynek on July 01, 2018, 08:47:12 AM
Like I said: We can do better. We better be able to!
For example:
https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/a-homily-on-marriage-by-st-john-chrysostom/msg616869/?topicseen#msg616869 (https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/a-homily-on-marriage-by-st-john-chrysostom/msg616869/?topicseen#msg616869)
Title: Re: Croix de Fer - no more videos from Pastor Dowell
Post by: rum on July 01, 2018, 09:00:02 AM
I was wondering when you were going to put a stop to that nonsense.

So you don't mind (https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/the-lesson-of-haiti/15/) the Pierce videos, just the Dowell stuff?
Title: Re: Croix de Fer - no more videos from Pastor Dowell
Post by: rum on July 01, 2018, 09:01:01 AM
I don't see any reason why Croix can't make all the points he wants to make using Catholic sources.
Title: Re: Croix de Fer - no more videos from Pastor Dowell
Post by: TxTrad on July 01, 2018, 09:34:32 AM
So you don't mind (https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/the-lesson-of-haiti/15/) the Pierce videos, just the Dowell stuff?
Exactly.
What is to stop CDF from finding another nut to latch on to and post his stuff ad nauseum?
Title: Re: Croix de Fer - no more videos from Pastor Dowell
Post by: Jaynek on July 01, 2018, 09:38:49 AM
Exactly.
What is to stop CDF from finding another nut to latch on to and post his stuff ad nauseum?
The moderator.
Title: Re: Croix de Fer - no more videos from Pastor Dowell
Post by: St Ignatius on July 01, 2018, 10:45:48 AM
I basically agree with you too, but not thanks to you or your pastor. Pax Vobis made your case 100x better than you ever could.

I agree with you 100% on this... I don't know how PV found the time to post all that he did in these threads, I couldn't seem to find the time just to read them all! Nonetheless, good job Pax Vobis, most of what I read of your posts rang true to me.

And to you, Mater, I commend you on your ability to see things objectively... while most others couldn't get past the subjective side of things, that CdF was just bad flypaper... :jester: