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Offline rum

Re: Croix de Fer has been banned
« Reply #50 on: July 07, 2018, 04:38:54 PM »
Intellectual debates are hindered from their purpose, which is to search for truth, by feelings and personal sentimentality.  
I was on another Catholic forum called Archbishop Lefebvre Forum some years back and was set back on my heels at the reaction to a couple of threads of mine about female hair length and a proposition that Archbishop Lefebvre Forums have two separate forums for men and for women. I posted to see if I could ferret out any feminism on the board, thinking maybe one or two people might put me in their crosshairs. Almost the entire forum turned on me, with a fake seer who went by the handle DawnMarie (who actually knows Bishop Williamson) and her coterie leading the charge. It was especially strange because I thought most of the people on that forum were less infected with feminism than myself. And this was a forum where I was on good terms with at least half the members, the admin and (at the time) the two ineffectual mods Mithrandylan and TMW89. The men on that forum were afraid of the women on that forum. It was a pathetic display.

I didn't read any of the threads Croix started about feminism, but he couldn't have helped himself by using that black preacher to back up the points he was making. He was giving people who are infected with feminism a get out of jail free card.
I don't know for sure if the nature of a coed forum makes for a breeding ground for feminism, but it's possible. Since feminism is Marxism applied to gender, traditional Catholics also have a problem of being Judaized.

Offline MaterDominici

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Re: Croix de Fer has been banned
« Reply #51 on: July 08, 2018, 01:21:12 AM »
With so much chaos in the Church, a woman can ask 10 different priest/bishops and get 10 different answers.
When I've seen this scenario, it has more to do with an unhappy marriage and a spouse trying to find a way out. He/she usually doesn't really have concerns that the marriage is invalid, but rather is wishing that it was! (Or, even more likely, they left / were left a long time ago and have now found a new person they'd like to marry.)

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Some women in these circuмstances choose to stay.  Some women choose to leave.  It is whatever God calls them to do and we can't fault either choice.  God knows her heart.
Can you elaborate with an example? I can't think right now of a marriage impediment that a spouse thinks might exist that couldn't be resolved to ensure that you are indeed married. If you really think that your marriage might be invalid and decide not to pursue a declaration of nullity, wouldn't it make sense to resolve the doubt by instead re-affirming your marriage vows?
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This raises another question for me. Say, for example, you think your marriage lacked true consent because it has become apparent that your spouse never intended to have children. Wouldn't it be sinful to ignore the situation and go on living like a married couple when your marriage was likely invalid?


Re: Croix de Fer has been banned
« Reply #52 on: July 08, 2018, 07:13:49 AM »
When I've seen this scenario, it has more to do with an unhappy marriage and a spouse trying to find a way out. He/she usually doesn't really have concerns that the marriage is invalid, but rather is wishing that it was! (Or, even more likely, they left / were left a long time ago and have now found a new person they'd like to marry.)
Can you elaborate with an example? I can't think right now of a marriage impediment that a spouse thinks might exist that couldn't be resolved to ensure that you are indeed married. If you really think that your marriage might be invalid and decide not to pursue a declaration of nullity, wouldn't it make sense to resolve the doubt by instead re-affirming your marriage vows?
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This raises another question for me. Say, for example, you think your marriage lacked true consent because it has become apparent that your spouse never intended to have children. Wouldn't it be sinful to ignore the situation and go on living like a married couple when your marriage was likely invalid?
I would think so, if you have doubts about the sacrament received, it’s sinful to ignore. same applies to Baptism, Confirmation, Holy Orders, hence why they are given conditionally. Marriage is a state, and to act like you’re married when you’re not would be a sin. Better safe than sorry 

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Croix de Fer has been banned
« Reply #53 on: July 08, 2018, 10:21:13 AM »
Intellectual debates are hindered from their purpose, which is to search for truth, by feelings and personal sentimentality.  

Yeah, except that many of your posts just drip with feelings and sentimentality ...

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Croix de Fer has been banned
« Reply #54 on: July 08, 2018, 10:23:32 AM »
Almost the entire forum turned on me, with a fake seer who went by the handle DawnMarie (who actually knows Bishop Williamson) and her coterie leading the charge. 

Ah, so DawnMarie is still floating around?   :facepalm:  Has she had any more visions/revelations?