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Re: Croix de Fer has been banned
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2018, 01:18:39 PM »
As you say, the only true precaution is finding the right person.  And you don't go on how she presents herself while dating.  You look at her family, her upbringing, and signs of her being devout.  Look for women who, without being forced to by their parents, dress modestly and are devout beyond the mere requirements.  Look for women who attend weekday Mass or have a strong prayer life.  Then your odds of a stable marriage increase dramatically ... 
Here’s where it gets complicated. 
Most friends and family in my circle have found their spouses outside of their chapels and Sunday Mass. 
Many trads seem to be choosing who they like and then bringing them to Church to see if they’ll eventually convert, and if they do then they’ll marry them. So essentially they are ‘training’ their own spouse beforehand. 
Now I know that sometimes a convert can be a better Catholic than someone raised in it, but I wouldn’t want to take that chance with my future spouse and living a daily Catholic life. 

I think this prenup stuff is for those who fear that their converted spouse will turn back to their old ways.


Re: Croix de Fer has been banned
« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2018, 03:17:06 PM »
Isn’t adultry a reason to get a divorce in the Church’s eyes? Or well, God’s eyes.
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No, adultery is not a reason to get a divorce. When a Catholic marries s/he is married until the death of one of the spouses. For a Catholic there is no such thing as divorce., and no reason for divorce (which is not the same thing as separation which is allowed in necessity.)
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I believe that some people here are saying that it is necessary to go through a divorce, according to the state, in order to survive, but even then neither of the Catholic spouses may "remarry", because they are still married in the eyes of the Church and in the eyes of God.
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Of course, an added incentive to stay together and work it out through repentance, forgiveness and the life of prayer and sacrifice.


Re: Croix de Fer has been banned
« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2018, 04:33:54 PM »
He did seem to post a lot of videos from non-Catholic sources.  I have been guilty of watching non-catholic content myself.  It does change your world view if you consume too much of it.

It seems  like a lot of younger trad-Catholics are becoming more intrigued by russian orthodox because russia seems less cultural-marxist than the west at the moment. I hope this trend doesn't continue because russian orthodxy is no alternative to traditional Catholicism. Russian orthodoxy is another path to hell.  

Re: Croix de Fer has been banned
« Reply #33 on: July 06, 2018, 05:15:20 PM »
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No, adultery is not a reason to get a divorce. When a Catholic marries s/he is married until the death of one of the spouses. For a Catholic there is no such thing as divorce., and no reason for divorce (which is not the same thing as separation which is allowed in necessity.)
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I believe that some people here are saying that it is necessary to go through a divorce, according to the state, in order to survive, but even then neither of the Catholic spouses may "remarry", because they are still married in the eyes of the Church and in the eyes of God.
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Of course, an added incentive to stay together and work it out through repentance, forgiveness and the life of prayer and sacrifice.
Understood thank you!

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Re: Croix de Fer has been banned
« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2018, 05:18:28 PM »
Isn’t adultry a reason to get a divorce in the Church’s eyes? Or well, God’s eyes.

Adultery is grounds for separation.  Once separated, a couple may go through a civil divorce for various pragmatic reasons, but they remain married in the eyes of God and of the Church and cannot marry someone else.