Author Topic: Criminalization of Christianity (Read 1281 times)

Cera · « **on:** April 09, 2013, 07:19:56 PM »

Does anyone else see how close we are to persecution? We have friends who nearly lost their home many years ago, simply for praying in front of an abortion clinic. We recently opened a pro-life office across the street from Planned Parenthood and were contacted by the FBI. I learned that the DOJ and FBI are co-training with Planned Parenthood about protection from the "potential terrorist" pro-life activists.

songbird · « **Reply #1 on:** April 09, 2013, 11:11:26 PM »

Cera: Check your dioceses out! Do you know that "the" enemy is the dioceses! If anyone wants to say rosary for the innocents say it in front of the dioceses, and watch the fireworks begin! It is you dioceses that is paying Planned Parenthood to exist and it is through the so-called catholic charities and campaign for human development and many more. They use United Way and March of Dimes, Domestic Violence all pay into PP. The dioceses and bishops know what they are doing and have for decades! Continue the Crisis Center. Most of the PP are closing and abortion is going to be done in "public entities" like hospitals and community medical centers. But the clue is to know who your enemy is. Even though the crisis centers obtain money from the dioceses, they do it to keep the them ( the dioceses) looking like they are pro-life and to keep donations coming in. It is all a scam! So, check it out, research if need be, and continue your work. Question is, If you are accepting money from the dioceses and you find out that what I wrote here is true, will you accept money from them in the future? If you don't, then people will ask and you can tell them why, then maybe they will support you and not the dioceses and those so-called charities.

Exilenomore · « **Reply #2 on:** April 10, 2013, 02:59:38 PM »

In recent times, maçonnerie has to a certain extent tried to avoid making martyrs, because they are aware of the fact that the blood of martyrs spreads the Kingdom of God on earth much more firmly than the predication of missionaries could ever accomplish, though they make exceptions; for example, Paul Scortesco, who was found dead, burned alive.

The persecution we are at present subject to as Catholics is intellectual and social, though it is possible that they will change their modus operandi in the future, so that it will turn into physical persecution again, like in the days of the revolution in France. It is necessary to ask God, in prayerful supplication, that He might give the grace to persevere in all that may come, and to be faithful to Him through suffering and death.

MrsZ · « **Reply #3 on:** April 11, 2013, 01:21:37 PM »

Quote from: songbird

Cera: Check your dioceses out! Do you know that "the" enemy is the dioceses! If anyone wants to say rosary for the innocents say it in front of the dioceses, and watch the fireworks begin! It is you dioceses that is paying Planned Parenthood to exist and it is through the so-called catholic charities and campaign for human development and many more. They use United Way and March of Dimes, Domestic Violence all pay into PP. The dioceses and bishops know what they are doing and have for decades! Continue the Crisis Center. Most of the PP are closing and abortion is going to be done in "public entities" like hospitals and community medical centers. But the clue is to know who your enemy is. Even though the crisis centers obtain money from the dioceses, they do it to keep the them ( the dioceses) looking like they are pro-life and to keep donations coming in. It is all a scam! So, check it out, research if need be, and continue your work. Question is, If you are accepting money from the dioceses and you find out that what I wrote here is true, will you accept money from them in the future? If you don't, then people will ask and you can tell them why, then maybe they will support you and not the dioceses and those so-called charities.

Songbird: what's your take on the USCCB's disclaimer about this? Here's the link:
http://www.usccb.org/about/catholic-campaign-for-human-development/Who-We-Are/upload/SAFEGUARDING-CATHOLIC-VALUES.pdf

Robin · « **Reply #4 on:** April 11, 2013, 01:40:52 PM »

Recently it was disclosed that a Planned Parenthood representative who was advocating for infanticide was on the board of Catholic Charities.

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #5 on:** April 11, 2013, 01:56:21 PM »

Quote from: MrsZ

Quote from: songbird
Cera: Check your dioceses out! Do you know that "the" enemy is the dioceses! If anyone wants to say rosary for the innocents say it in front of the dioceses, and watch the fireworks begin! It is you dioceses that is paying Planned Parenthood to exist and it is through the so-called catholic charities and campaign for human development and many more. They use United Way and March of Dimes, Domestic Violence all pay into PP. The dioceses and bishops know what they are doing and have for decades! Continue the Crisis Center. Most of the PP are closing and abortion is going to be done in "public entities" like hospitals and community medical centers. But the clue is to know who your enemy is. Even though the crisis centers obtain money from the dioceses, they do it to keep the them ( the dioceses) looking like they are pro-life and to keep donations coming in. It is all a scam! So, check it out, research if need be, and continue your work. Question is, If you are accepting money from the dioceses and you find out that what I wrote here is true, will you accept money from them in the future? If you don't, then people will ask and you can tell them why, then maybe they will support you and not the dioceses and those so-called charities.

Songbird: what's your take on the USCCB's disclaimer about this? Here's the link:
http://www.usccb.org/about/catholic-campaign-for-human-development/Who-We-Are/upload/SAFEGUARDING-CATHOLIC-VALUES.pdf

Fwiw, my take is: LIES.
I may not be a sede (yet), but I believe nothing from US Council of so called "Catholic Bishops". More like a coven of un-Catholics.
The hierarchy is poisoned through and through with masonic influence. Everything that appears good is a lie.

songbird · « **Reply #6 on:** April 11, 2013, 09:18:27 PM »

Thank you for that post and web site. I checked it out and the USCCB are full of lies, you are so right! I saw a lady today wearing a March of Dimes T-shirt. She marched for them. I would have liked to have told her that March of Dimes are abortion supporters. March of Dimes pays for the Momobile that we have at the dioceses here in Phoenix. But of course they USCCB will see to it that so-called nice charities are bunched up with United Way programs. You know, the baby in the bath water idea. You can't throw the baby out with the bath water. I also don't like pro-life groups that take the tax exemption and so their mouths are shut on the political side of abortion. Not only that, they make the new order presbyters, bishops look pro-life and talk them up to look good. That turns my stomach when they do that and then lifesite news keeps it going. To those pro-life orgs that make the bishops and pope look so pro-llife, they get their mail returned to them with no money and a reminder of what they are doing is not going unnoticed. I tell these pro-life orgs to wise up.

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #7 on:** April 11, 2013, 09:36:49 PM »

Quote from: songbird

Cera: Check your dioceses out! Do you know that "the" enemy is the dioceses! .

Indeed, and all the way to the top of NewChurch Rome. The evidence is in Francis stabbing the backs of all the Catholic Faithful who have sacrificed themselves for endless hours praying to end abortion in front of the clinics. Francis stabbed them in the back by allowing Holy Communion to Biden and Peℓσѕι at his inaugural Mass, and he greeted them by shaking their hands (before or after the Mass).

Dolan is another backstabber to the Catholic Faithful, many of whom have been arrested for praying the Rosary in front of clinics. Dolan proudly announced Biden's attendance at Mass for everyone to applaud after the two arrived back to the U.S. from the Vatican. Then Dolan gives Biden Holy Communion, too. The Novus Ordite kool-aid drinkers just turn their heads or remain hushed about it. They suffer cognitive dissonance or they just don't care.

songbird · « **Reply #8 on:** April 11, 2013, 10:41:17 PM »

It would be nice if people would see the New Order for what it is, Marxist from the Top down. Some people think and say, "Oh, but our bishop or our priest is good and is really pro-life and I tell them, I don't care what mushy stuff they say, truth is, where is the money going?! Did you check that out!

Honestly, I think they don't care. Why do they bother with these social gatherings! It sickens my stomach to know my family continues to support New Order and cut my phone calls to home, short.

People can be so blind, and you would think that they would not want to be taken in, to be so foolish.

In 1995-96, 6 New Order churches had Health fairs. At these health fairs, in their halls of the church, were Planned Parenthood exhibits with pamphlets and IUD exhibit. Booklets on condoms, with spanish cartoons of young boys holding up the condom and saying, "this will save you". (like the priest holding up Christ, (host). Ugly! And what was this? It was the Welfare Reform that the federal gov't wanted implemented throughout the USA. So, we spearheaded it, the USCCB. And who signed up the uninsured, the deacons and catechist. Whoever signed up got free benefits and food stamps and cash and birth control was vital, because there was a Kid Cap in the Welfare Bill. You can have all these goodies as long as no pregnancy comes along or you can lose out!

I picked up all the freebies at the vendors exhibits and kept some for me for proof and some for the presbyter. I showed them to the deacon and catechist and they gave me no attention. I took the goody bag to the presbyter and the teen secretary said the priest was not in. I said, well just leave this on his desk and my business card. She says, OK! She gets up from her desk and out pops the priest and tells me to leave or I would be escorted off the premises.

That all happened here in Phoenix. RCF came to the next health fairs and video taped, but do you think it would change their views of the New Order. NO! Those RCF people are still in the New Order. One asked me to join the "Tea Party" a month ago. I told this person, "We must have Christ's Church and the Clergy to fight for the Faith, first and foremost." "Where did you get the idea that it starts at the legislature."

Incredulous · « **Reply #9 on:** April 12, 2013, 12:28:09 AM »

Quote from: PerEvangelicaDicta

Quote from: MrsZ
Quote from: songbird
Cera: Check your dioceses out! Do you know that "the" enemy is the dioceses! If anyone wants to say rosary for the innocents say it in front of the dioceses, and watch the fireworks begin! It is you dioceses that is paying Planned Parenthood to exist and it is through the so-called catholic charities and campaign for human development and many more. They use United Way and March of Dimes, Domestic Violence all pay into PP. The dioceses and bishops know what they are doing and have for decades! Continue the Crisis Center. Most of the PP are closing and abortion is going to be done in "public entities" like hospitals and community medical centers. But the clue is to know who your enemy is. Even though the crisis centers obtain money from the dioceses, they do it to keep the them ( the dioceses) looking like they are pro-life and to keep donations coming in. It is all a scam! So, check it out, research if need be, and continue your work. Question is, If you are accepting money from the dioceses and you find out that what I wrote here is true, will you accept money from them in the future? If you don't, then people will ask and you can tell them why, then maybe they will support you and not the dioceses and those so-called charities.

Songbird: what's your take on the USCCB's disclaimer about this? Here's the link:
http://www.usccb.org/about/catholic-campaign-for-human-development/Who-We-Are/upload/SAFEGUARDING-CATHOLIC-VALUES.pdf

Fwiw, my take is: LIES.
I may not be a sede (yet), but I believe nothing from US Council of so called "Catholic Bishops". More like a coven of un-Catholics.
The hierarchy is poisoned through and through with masonic influence. Everything that appears good is a lie.

Agee with your take.

It appears the US Conciliar Church wants to hijack the Pro-life movement because its core membership is organized with steady donations and cash-flow.

Why do the American Bishops, after decades of ambiguity, suddenly want to rally with the Pro-lifers ? They routinely offer pro-abort politicians the Holy Eucharist. Why, because they're hurting financially and want to keep their queer newChurch party going.

A horrible accusation... yes, but after multi-million dollar pay-outs for sex crimes, that seems to be how far they've fallen.

There are many conservative Catholics devoted to the Pro-life cause.
I suspect they will eventually see through the USCCB's hypocrisy.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #10 on:** April 12, 2013, 12:57:16 AM »

Quote from: Incredulous

Agee with your take.

It appears the US Conciliar Church wants to hijack the Pro-life movement because its core membership is organized with steady donations and cash-flow.

Why do the American Bishops, after decades of ambiguity, suddenly want to rally with the Pro-lifers ? They routinely offer pro-abort politicians the Holy Eucharist. Why, because they're hurting financially and want to keep their queer newChurch party going.

A horrible accusation... yes, but after multi-million dollar pay-outs for sex crimes, that seems to be how far they've fallen.

There are many conservative Catholics devoted to the Pro-life cause.
I suspect they will eventually see through the USCCB's hypocrisy.

This would put the pregnancy counseling centers in a difficult position.

They want to be on good terms with the diocese so the parishioners won't be
afraid to make donations. But if the diocese interferes, then the parishioners
will think they have to choose between one and the other, or, if they continue
to give to the alternative-to-abortion centers, then they have to do so without
paying much attention to the appeals of the local bishop.

On a larger perspective, it's not much different from what is going on in your
local SSPX parish, where the Faithful have to choose between supporting the
push to make a 'deal' with modernist Rome, or cut ties to be sure they are
funding ONLY the authentic Catholic Faith, such as sending their donations to
The Carmel of Germany or Dom Tomas de Aquino in Brazil or +W via St.
Marcel Initiative or OL of Mt. Carmel in KY, among others ~ any one of which
is a far more appropriate recipient of donations than is the local SSPX chapel
that always sends a portion to Menzingen, where they don't even need your
money because they've got plenty of Euros from Krah and his gang of thieves.