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Credit Default Swaps
« on: March 03, 2013, 02:08:27 AM »
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  • A credit default swap (CDS) acts as a sort of insurance on bond interest payments and principals. If an owner of a bond wishes, he/she can form a CDS agreement with a CDS seller for a portion of the interest received from that bond. At which point, the CDS seller assumes all of the risk of the bond. If the bond issuer defaults on either the interest payment or the principal at maturity then the CDS seller will fully compensate the CDS buyer. A lot of times investment funds, retirement funds, investment firms, banks, etc. engage in these types of derivatives. The market for these derivatives is largely underground, and summations as high as $63 trillion have been made. It is huge. Most people don't know about this market. Most of CDS activity is highly unregulated. CDS sellers are not required to own a license to issue CDS's which means that they cannot be criminally prosecuted if they decide not to compensate the CDS buyer. This has and does happen from time to time. The biggest problem is this...most of the institutions that engage in CDS derivatives do not have the cash reserves to compensate CDS buyers. They simply just assume the risk because they get a portion of that bond interest for doing absolutely nothing. They assume that the risk is worth it because, according to them, most bonds do not default even though they have a low credit rating. While at the same time, CDS buyers believe that they have hedged most of the risk involved with owning bonds simply by purchasing CDS agreements on those bonds. The fact is nobody has any idea as to how risky the CDS market really is. There have been instances where CDS sellers popped smoked when it came time to compensate CDS buyers. On top of it all, there is a lot of illegal activity that takes place behind CDSs. A CDS seller will form an agreement with a CDS buyer then take that agreement and sell it to, lets say, an investment firm for a fee. The CDS seller will sell the agreement to investment firms like Lehman Brothers and JPMorgan, Inc (Jєω controlled investment firms). At which point, the investment firm will collect a portion of the interest of the bond for doing absolutely nothing. At the same time, many investment firms, hedge funds, banks, etc. are assuming liabilities of $100 billion or more in Credit Default Swaps alone. This figure is far more than what they can handle, but they continue to do it anyways. The cash flows from CDSs are too difficult for them to turn down.

    How are the Jєωs making their money? Banks are using depositor's cash as collateral on these agreements without us even knowing about it. Which means that if they have to compensate a CDS Buyer they use our deposit money to do so. At the same time, they are collecting a portion of the interest payments from bondholders and pocketing that money. This is large in due to how underground this market is, and our ignorance about them engaging in it. If banks feel that they have too many CDS agreements then they will sell off some of them to investment firms like Lehman Brothers and JPMorgan, Inc. (Jєωιѕн owned investment firms). These organizations do the same things that banks are doing. They assume massive liabilities placing them into a position that is way over their head in order to collect just a chunk of the interest from bondholders. USING OUR MONEY AS COLLATERAL WITHOUT US KNOWING ABOUT IT. THEN POCKETING THAT MONEY WITHOUT ANYONE KNOWING ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT IS HIGHLY UNREGULATED. MASSING FORTUNES!!!!! AFTERALL, THIS UNDERGROUND MARKET HAS BEEN ESTIMATED AT $63 TRILLION AND IT IS ALL UNDERGROUND. THE JєωS ARE GETTING EVERY BIT OF %1-%2 OF THAT $63 TRILLION ANNUALLY. THEN POCKETING IT. WITHOUT US KNOWING ABOUT IT....USING OUR DEPOSITS AS COLLATERAL.


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    Credit Default Swaps
    « Reply #1 on: March 03, 2013, 02:56:16 PM »
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  • if you don't understand all of this thats fine.

    Lets put it this way...

    We put our money into a bank because it is a safe way to store our money. Banks keep about 10% of that money with them on reserve. This is so that we (the depositors) can withdraw some of our money whenever we want. The rest of depositors' money is loaned out to people who want buy homes, cars, etc. The bank collects interest payments on these loans and that is how they are able to pay wages, etc. to the people who work at the bank. On top of that, banks invest some of the money in stock, bonds, etc. while collecting returns on their investments. All of this is to finance their daily operations. They use these investments and mortgages as collateral for Credit Default Swaps. Meaning that if they have to pay someone when that person's bonds default...they use either some of the interest received from mortgages or sell off some of their investments to do so. The problem is...if all of a sudden a bunch of bonds defaulted at the same time for whatever reason, then the total amount of depositor's money plus the money the bank is making from mortgages and investments would not be enough to cover all of the money the bank would owe if all of the bonds they are insuring (via Credit Default Swaps) defaulted.

    Default means that the bond issuer (companies, governments, etc.) cannot pay either the interest payment or the principal on the bond at maturity. Or in other words, the bond issuer goes bankrupt.

    So basically, banks are assuming these liabilities even though they do not have enough collateral for a worse case scenario. Meanwhile, they are pocketing the money they are receiving from Credit Default Swaps and not dispersing it to depositors. Its all being done behind depositors' back. Using depositor's money as collateral. It must be the Jєωs who are pocketing this money since Jєωs own and/or operate a lot of banks and investment firms.