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Offline Jaynek

Re: Could the British Prime Minister be a Daily Rosary Saying, Tridentine Mass fan?
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2019, 06:41:37 AM »
Sorry Nadir. I meant to upvote your post but my finger slipped.  
I guess I was all thumbs on the thumbs up.  :jester:
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Offline Banezian

Re: Could the British Prime Minister be a Daily Rosary Saying, Tridentine Mass fan?
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2019, 10:36:53 AM »
Quote from: Nadir on January 17, 2019, 06:30:11 AM
If you read the article you will find that he was married with a novus ordo mass in latin so it seems he might be a smells and bells man. He likes the Tridentine, but he's happy enough with the other.
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IT is certainly inadvisable for a Catholic to marry an anglican, the Church frowns on Catholics marrying heretics, and as for a Catholic marrying in Canterbury cathedral well that would be a disgrace (if it were true).
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Banezian, you classify yourself as traditional, but like many traditionalists you do not know the Catholic Faith well.
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My impressions have been gained in the same way I gain impressions of any other posters, i.e. by your posts.
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Though I must say I have been overly harsh and incharitable and for this I apologise.
So it seems you made the statement because I said I was fine with Mogg marrying an Anglican. You could have asked me to explain what I meant before making such a statement
My personal position when it comes to mixed marriages is a realistic one. There are very, very few traditional Christians in the modern world( let alone Traditional Catholics) That being the case, mixed marriage must be a serious consideration today. It’s sad that it’s gotten to that point, but that is the reality. If it were 1900 or even 1950, I would not say what I said, as there would have been plenty of Traditional Catholics. It’s 2019 though, and we must take the reality into account. Mogg has 6 children with his Anglican wife. How many N. O Catholic women would be willing to have that many children?
I’ve had a great amount of experience with Novus Ordo Catholics. Speaking personally as a young single man, I would absolutely marry a Traditional Orthodox or a Traditional Protestant(Anglican/Lutheran) before I thought about marrying an N. O Catholic.
I most certainly do not approve of Mogg getting married at Canterbury Cathedral or with an N. O Mass.
You claim I don’t know the Catholic Faith. This is probably because of my position on BOD. I follow Garrigou-Lagrange on this point, and I’ll take his position over the views of Cathinfo armchair theologians any day
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Offline ggreg

Re: Could the British Prime Minister be a Daily Rosary Saying, Tridentine Mass fan?
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2019, 10:53:11 AM »
Quote from: Maria Regina on January 16, 2019, 12:33:38 PM
Genocide caused by deliberately tainted and bio-engineered mandated vaccines, abortion, and radicalized Muslim honor-killings, beheadings, and crucifixions are still taking place today. From what I have read in the British underground news, Muslims continue to kill and rape daily in the UK.
deliberately tainted and bio-engineered mandated vaccines

Not proven

abortion

Not genocide.  Murder by the mother and spread across all ethnic groups.

radicalized Muslim honor-killings

Not genocide either except perhaps in ISIS controlled territory.  Lasted a short period of time.

From what I have read in the British underground news, Muslims continue to kill and rape daily in the UK.

You need to read more objective opinions then.  They certainly are not killing daily.  That is nonsense.

I'd reckon you are more likely to be killed or raped by an illegal immigrant or negro in the USA than the UK.  London is perhaps an exception to that rule.  But in most English towns rapes are rare and Muslims are rare too.  There are maybe a dozen or so hotspots where they collect together such as Luton, Bradford and various parts of London like the Isle of Dogs and west London.  The rape victims tend to be girls with mental health issues or from broken families.  They are not kidnapping and raping white girls walking home from grammar schools.  They are grooming and raping neglected children who are usually inserting themselves into the Muslim's company (hanging around in Kebab shops) because their own family lives are broken.

Because London Airport is surrounded by Indian and Muslim immigrant areas visitors to the UK can easily get the impression that the UK is choc full of such people.  But in my town for example only about 1 in 100 people are Muslims, if that.  My son has 2 in his academic year from 220 students.

Same is true of London.  It is a non-English city and completely different than the London I grew up in.

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Could the British Prime Minister be a Daily Rosary Saying, Tridentine Mass fan?
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2019, 11:40:38 AM »
What does it mean to be a "traditional Christian" vs. a "traditional Catholic"?  There's no such thing as a traditional Christian except for a Traditional Catholic.

If you can't find a Traditional Catholic spouse, then at least go with a conservative Novus Ordo type who still has the faith and believes the same core things as what the Church teaches on faith and morals.  There's much less a divide there.  At least you both profess the Catholic faith ... vs. marrying a heretic.

Not that this man is a Traditional Catholic.  Surely he could have found a conservative Novus Ordo wife.  But she is worth lots of money and seems to have ties with nobility.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Could the British Prime Minister be a Daily Rosary Saying, Tridentine Mass fan?
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2019, 11:42:52 AM »
While the man seems to be very strong on Catholic morals, and he would be far preferable to any other politician out there, I do suspect that his inclinations toward the Tridentine Mass may be simply a function of his overall foppish tendencies ... so, as someone else said, a smells and bells man.
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