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Offline Christopher67

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« on: October 03, 2013, 01:27:13 AM »
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    Here is the email for the President of Russia....New idea, ask the Russians to ask the pope to consecrate them...Sedes, instead of complaining about this post, how about just pray for the same consecration?


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    « Reply #1 on: October 03, 2013, 01:53:06 AM »
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    « Reply #2 on: October 03, 2013, 02:03:27 AM »
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    Here is the email for the President of Russia....New idea, ask the Russians to ask the pope to consecrate them...Sedes, instead of complaining about this post, how about just pray for the same consecration?


    Christopher,

    I am a "sede" but I am with you on praying for the consecration of Russia.  Every Catholic should pray for this.

    I just believe that your and my prayers only hasten God sending us a Pope to do the consecration in union with the Bishops.  Francis the heretic will not and cannot do the consecration.


    The Council of Trent, The Catechism of the Council of Trent, Papal Teaching, The Teaching of the Holy Office, The Teaching of the Church Fathers, The Code of Canon Law, Countless approved catechisms, The Doctors of the Church, The teaching of the Dogmatic

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    « Reply #3 on: October 03, 2013, 02:11:54 AM »
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    Here is the email for the President of Russia....New idea, ask the Russians to ask the pope to consecrate them...Sedes, instead of complaining about this post, how about just pray for the same consecration?


    Christopher,

    I am a "sede" but I am with you on praying for the consecration of Russia.  Every Catholic should pray for this.

    I just believe that your and my prayers only hasten God sending us a Pope to do the consecration in union with the Bishops.  Francis the heretic will not and cannot do the consecration.



    He might if Putin asks him. You never know.

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    « Reply #4 on: October 03, 2013, 02:19:41 AM »
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    Here is the email for the President of Russia....New idea, ask the Russians to ask the pope to consecrate them...Sedes, instead of complaining about this post, how about just pray for the same consecration?


    Christopher,

    I am a "sede" but I am with you on praying for the consecration of Russia.  Every Catholic should pray for this.

    I just believe that your and my prayers only hasten God sending us a Pope to do the consecration in union with the Bishops.  Francis the heretic will not and cannot do the consecration.



    He might if Putin asks him. You never know.


    Our Lady requested a pope, not an antipope.  We need a pope again, and perhaps this consecration of Russia and the conversion which will follow will show the world who the pope is, when the time comes.

    The Council of Trent, The Catechism of the Council of Trent, Papal Teaching, The Teaching of the Holy Office, The Teaching of the Church Fathers, The Code of Canon Law, Countless approved catechisms, The Doctors of the Church, The teaching of the Dogmatic


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    « Reply #5 on: October 03, 2013, 02:31:44 AM »
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  • Fair enough...sent the emails?

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    « Reply #6 on: October 03, 2013, 02:40:40 AM »
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    Fair enough...sent the emails?


    You must know that e-mails to the president of Russia are a waste of time.  I do not care if Francis consecrates Russia, Our Lady said a pope, she did not request an antipope.

    I will join with you in prayer for Our Lady's request to be fulfilled, for the Pope in union with the bishops to consecrate Russia.

    The Council of Trent, The Catechism of the Council of Trent, Papal Teaching, The Teaching of the Holy Office, The Teaching of the Church Fathers, The Code of Canon Law, Countless approved catechisms, The Doctors of the Church, The teaching of the Dogmatic

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    « Reply #7 on: October 03, 2013, 03:05:01 AM »
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  • Why is it a waste of time to actually try? If you believe there is no pope, then it is still a reason for you to do this, because it's what Our Lady wants. She wont fault you.  And as I said, sedes can pray for this. If the seat is empty, as you claim, then perhaps the consecration brings an end to that? Either way. everyone wins.


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    « Reply #8 on: October 03, 2013, 12:27:15 PM »
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    Why is it a waste of time to actually try? If you believe there is no pope, then it is still a reason for you to do this, because it's what Our Lady wants. She wont fault you.  And as I said, sedes can pray for this. If the seat is empty, as you claim, then perhaps the consecration brings an end to that? Either way. everyone wins.


    When it comes to praying for the consecration to be done we are of the same mind on this.  When it comes to practical action to achieving this, there will be differences of opinion.  

    I have no intention of petitioning Francis to do anything, or to ask others to do so.  I am not saying for you not do to this, as you operate under a different set of assumptions, and perhaps your actions may get Mr. Putin, one of the most powerful men in the world to at least hear or think about Fatima.

    When Bishop Fellay organized a Rosary drive throughout the world for the consecration of Russia, I was on board with that, and prayed it with Catholics around the world.  I have no doubt that Fellay, like you, think that this will come about through these usurpers, but that was not the stated intent of the prayer, it was that Our Lady's request for the consecration would be done, without mentioning the antipope.

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    « Reply #9 on: October 04, 2013, 10:53:42 AM »
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    Here is the email for the President of Russia....New idea, ask the Russians to ask the pope to consecrate them...Sedes, instead of complaining about this post, how about just pray for the same consecration?


    Dr. Brian Kopp has a very good letter on this page to send to President Putin.  The maximum amount of characters the Kremlin site will accept is 2000.  Dr. Kopp's letter is just about 2000 characters long so I had to delete the 'Thank you' from the letter that I sent because my name and address is longer than Dr. Kopp's.
    http://faithreasonandhealth.blogspot.ca/2013/09/ask-vladimir-putin-to-request.html

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    « Reply #10 on: October 04, 2013, 11:20:20 AM »
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  • This is just another attack on Pius XII. Anyone who thinks they know better than the Pope( who, unlike these posters, knew Sr Lucy personally) what needed to be done re: Fatima & Russia is doing just that.

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    « Reply #11 on: October 04, 2013, 04:32:50 PM »
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    This is just another attack on Pius XII. Anyone who thinks they know better than the Pope( who, unlike these posters, knew Sr Lucy personally) what needed to be done re: Fatima & Russia is doing just that.


    I was not aware that Pius XII knew Sr. Lucy personally.  In any event, "what needed to be done" was clearly revealed by Our Lady to popes from Pius XI on to the present.  They all knew what needed to be done, and they didn't do it.

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    « Reply #12 on: October 04, 2013, 06:59:46 PM »
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  • Not true, I just provided you with Papal Bulls, Doctors of the Church, 1917 Code of Canon Law, the Catholic Encyclopedia, even statement from Archbishop Lefebvre etc. with footnotes all in support of sedevacantism.

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    « Reply #13 on: October 04, 2013, 07:14:22 PM »
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    This is just another attack on Pius XII. Anyone who thinks they know better than the Pope( who, unlike these posters, knew Sr Lucy personally) what needed to be done re: Fatima & Russia is doing just that.


    I was not aware that Pius XII knew Sr. Lucy personally.  In any event, "what needed to be done" was clearly revealed by Our Lady to popes from Pius XI on to the present.  They all knew what needed to be done, and they didn't do it.


    I guess we have another claimant to the Papacy.  :applause:

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    « Reply #14 on: October 04, 2013, 08:53:56 PM »
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    I guess we have another claimant to the Papacy.  


    Whatever that means. :sad: