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Offline amariec

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Conscience or God, what the diference?
« on: December 08, 2009, 02:55:16 PM »
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    • lately i have heard sermons and discussions about hearing God speak to you and being open to hearing his will. how do you know when you hear the voice of God? or if it is your conscience correcting you? what is the difference or is there one?
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    Offline kamalayka

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    Conscience or God, what the diference?
    « Reply #1 on: December 08, 2009, 09:57:10 PM »
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    • From our small perspective, coincidences exist.

    But in reality, everything is controlled by God.

    He is just as aware of your thoughts at this moment as He is of two microscopic dust particles colliding into each other 500,000 light years away in space in the year 1407.
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    Offline CM

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    Conscience or God, what the diference?
    « Reply #2 on: December 08, 2009, 11:28:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: kamalayka
    From our small perspective, coincidences exist.


    He said conscience, not coincidence.

    Conscience can be likened to the voice of God, warning the sinner of impending punishment:

    Quote from: Wisdom 17:10
    For whereas wickedness is fearful, it beareth witness of its condemnation: for a troubled conscience always forecasteth grievous things.


    Conscience is a measuring stick against which we may judge ourselves and gain some insight as to the state of our own soul (though we cannot know this with absolute certainty)

    Quote from: Ecclesiasticus 13:30
    Riches are good to him that hath no sin in his conscience: and poverty is very wicked in the mouth of the ungodly.


    In our conscience we may know whether or not we are keeping Christ's commands of loving God above all things, and loving each other as He has loved us.

    Quote from: Acts of the Apostles 24:16
    And herein do I endeavour to have always a conscience without offence toward God, and towards men.




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    But in reality, everything is controlled by God.


    No.  Human beings have free will.  God does not control or ordain what they will choose, but foresees it and ordains the reward or punishment, which is due.

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    He is just as aware of your thoughts at this moment as He is of two microscopic dust particles colliding into each other 500,000 light years away in space in the year 1407.


    This much is true.
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    Offline Jamie

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    Conscience or God, what the diference?
    « Reply #3 on: December 09, 2009, 12:27:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: kamalayka
    From our small perspective, coincidences exist.

    But in reality, everything is controlled by God.

    He is just as aware of your thoughts at this moment as He is of two microscopic dust particles colliding into each other 500,000 light years away in space in the year 1407.


    I must agree with Catholic_M - God does not control everything as that defies free will.  He knows everything that will ever happen and is happening and has happened because he exists outside of the material world (of which time is a part).

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    Offline amariec

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    Conscience or God, what the diference?
    « Reply #4 on: December 09, 2009, 09:32:13 AM »
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    • thank you for the insight. i agree with all that was said.
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    Offline kamalayka

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    « Reply #5 on: December 09, 2009, 11:01:02 AM »
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    • I know He does not control our free will, obviously.

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    Offline Jamie

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    « Reply #6 on: December 09, 2009, 03:11:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: kamalayka
    I know He does not control our free will, obviously.



    Are you saying he controls everything but doesn't control our free will?  Because our free will is part of "everything" which means you are contradicting yourself.

    Frankly, it wouldn't hurt for you to be a little more humble when corrected.
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    « Reply #7 on: December 09, 2009, 04:59:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jamie
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    I know He does not control our free will, obviously.



    Are you saying he controls everything but doesn't control our free will?  Because our free will is part of "everything" which means you are contradicting yourself.

    Frankly, it wouldn't hurt for you to be a little more humble when corrected.



    It would seem that we are both in need of A LOT of humility.
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    Offline amariec

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    « Reply #8 on: December 09, 2009, 06:21:39 PM »
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    • i agree. and we are now off topic
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    « Reply #9 on: December 10, 2009, 07:38:53 PM »
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    « Reply #10 on: December 11, 2009, 01:52:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: kamalayka
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    I know He does not control our free will, obviously.



    Are you saying he controls everything but doesn't control our free will?  Because our free will is part of "everything" which means you are contradicting yourself.

    Frankly, it wouldn't hurt for you to be a little more humble when corrected.



    It would seem that we are both in need of A LOT of humility.


    Answer Jamie's question:

    Are you saying he controls everything but doesn't control our free will?
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    « Reply #11 on: December 12, 2009, 10:44:48 PM »
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    • Vladimir that was helpful and deep. thank you
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    Offline Vladimir

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    « Reply #12 on: December 13, 2009, 06:29:57 PM »
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    • If you have the time, there is a Youtube series of a sermon on discernment of spirits.



    That is part one.

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