If you made a mistake, singular, why did you defend the "mistake" with additional "mistakes"?
a) pretending that your initial quote "mistake" was just an inference that the Gates of Hell didn't prevail against Peter personally:
https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/novus-ordo-hs-student-dilemma/msg680060/#msg680060
 
b) pretending that your "mistake" was “prudential silence,” as if words are any kind of “silence”:
https://www.cathinfo.com/anonymous-posts-allowed/advice-concerning-detraction/msg679757/#msg679757
c) continuing to pretend that there is no difference between “you” and “it”:
https://www.cathinfo.com/health-and-nutrition/friday-or-not-whats-your-dinner/msg680141/#msg680141

With Mark79's assistance, it has come to my attention that Poche has posted known, concrete errors on CathInfo.  This is in violation of CathInfo rules forbidding *any* falsehoods of any kind.

1. Falsifying a Scripture quote -- in a signficant manner, which actually changes the meaning -- and not taking correction when his error was pointed out.
2. Using quotations marks when the quote was never uttered
3. Claiming that Pope Francis "preached against the тαℓмυd" when the allocution itself didn't mention the тαℓмυd at all. As I will mention later, quotation marks MEAN SOMETHING and intellectual honesty must be maintained on a written discussion forum. If the words weren't uttered, don't place them in quotation marks.
4. Placing St. Pius X's stance on the тαℓмυd and the Jєωs on the same level as Pope Francis.


So I condemn and correct Poche's errors including:

1. Mis-quoting Scripture
Scripture itself must NOT be twisted to win an argument, look better, save face, defend yourself, or even to defend someone else -- even someone as important as the Pope. One cannot do evil that good might come from it. That is basic Catholic moral theology.

The official, preferred translation used by most Traditional Catholics, and therefore CathInfo as well, is the Challoner revision of the Douay-Rheims translation (also acceptable: the original Douay-Rheims). In any disputes about the material words of Scripture, recourse must be made to this slavishly-faithful-to-the-original English translation, or the Latin Vulgate itself. But nowadays, few Catholics, even within Tradition, can read Latin. So I recommend the Douay-Rheims which is just as accurate but in English. I recommend you bookmark www.drbo.org to look up Scripture quotes; it even has a handy search function.

2. Using quotation marks to signify a direct quotation, where the quotation in question never existed.
Just like Abraham Lincoln told me a few days ago, "That's death to any Internet forum, Matthew!"
This can't be allowed on any written discussion forum. Quotation marks should only be used when the person in question actually uttered those words verbatim. If you wish to paraphrase or summarize, you must leave the quote marks off. And NEVER put words in anyone's mouth. That includes during arguments, where combatants are wont to quote their opponent, change their quote, and say "fixed it for you" to make a point, as a device of sorts. But it's crude and dishonest to put words into your opponent's mouth, so it's not allowed on this forum (as well as most other fora out there).

3. Claiming Pope Francis did or said something he did not
The truth doesn't need you to "modify", spin, or twist it. State the truth simply and let the chips fall where they may. You never know, it might open your eyes to the truth in other areas as well. Willfully deceiving yourself, or accepting a lie in place of the truth, eventually leads to a complete inability to perceive the truth. In the end, the miserable soul can even worship satan (the father of lies) in place of God (who is Truth).

4. Claiming there is no Crisis in the Church, Pope St. Pius X had basically the same stance on the Jєωs/тαℓмυd as Pope Francis, etc.
I allow members to deal with the Crisis in the Church according to their own lights, prudence, and conscience. However, denying the Crisis altogether puts you completely outside the Traditional Catholic movement. This is a Traditional Catholic forum. If you want to ask questions of the many well informed and educated Catholics here, be my guest. But you must respect the Traditional Catholic beliefs and position. Even many conservative Novus Ordo Catholics know that Pope Francis is a different kind of Pope (in a bad way) than good old popes like St. Pius X. Even many who choose to say in the Novus Ordo acknowledge there is a huge Crisis in the Church.

5. Failure to acknowledge some actual errors in the modern Catholic Church, for example the post-Vatican II errors on the Jєωs ("Elder brothers in the Church", "Their covenant is still valid", "They don't need to convert") which is in direct contradiction to pre-Vatican II Popes, including St. Peter: "Therefore let all the house of Israel know most certainly, that God hath made both Lord and Christ, this same Jesus, whom you have crucified. Now when they had heard these things, they had compunction in their heart, and said to Peter, and to the rest of the apostles: What shall we do, men and brethren? But Peter said to them: Do penance, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins: and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is to you, and to your children, and to all that are far off, whomsoever the Lord our God shall call. And with very many other words did he testify and exhort them, saying: Save yourselves from this perverse generation." (Acts 2:36-40)


This is a formal warning for Poche, that he cease posting these errors on CathInfo and abide by the forum rules as I have described them. Failure to comply could result in further moderator action(s).

CathInfo members are encouraged to report any violations of these rules, by Poche or any other member. Please use the "Report to Moderator" link in the lower-right corner of each post, send me a PM, or e-mail me: matthew at cathinfo dot com.

You are right. I had a larger idea that I was trying to convey. It is the truth that the Catholic Church is founded by Christ. It was he who instituted the papacy and it was he who named Peter to be the first Pope. Jesus promise is; the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
There have been times during the Roman Empire that almost the entire hierarchy was arrested and put to death. In the early part of the 19th century, Napoleon invaded Italy and arrested the Pope. Napoleon declared, "I shall destroy your Catholic Church!" Where is that Pope now? Or better yet, where is Napoleon today?
Not to say that there are no problems today. But the promise of Christ remains. He also said, "Behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world. "

144 words that really do not address the heart of your problem or the solution to your problem.

You could have said: "I faked a biblical quote to make my point. I'm sorry. I won't do it again."

For about a month you have been evading the authentic Catholic response to getting caught in multiple lies.  16 words would have acknowledged and corrected the entire problem.

Poche, stop your B.S.  You are supposed to be a 60 year-old Catholic man. Quit acting like a prissy little fαɢɢօt.

You are right. I had a larger idea that I was trying to convey. It is the truth that the Catholic Church is founded by Christ. It was he who instituted the papacy and it was he who named Peter to be the first Pope. Jesus promise is; the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
There have been times during the Roman Empire that almost the entire hierarchy was arrested and put to death. In the early part of the 19th century, Napoleon invaded Italy and arrested the Pope. Napoleon declared, "I shall destroy your Catholic Church!" Where is that Pope now? Or better yet, where is Napoleon today?
Not to say that there are no problems today. But the promise of Christ remains. He also said, "Behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world. "