Author Topic: Committing mortal sin (Read 2223 times)

InfiniteFaith · « **on:** December 20, 2012, 08:58:01 PM »

Assuming you would have gone to confession the very first chance you get...would you still go to hell if you die before confession?

Marlelar · « **Reply #1 on:** December 20, 2012, 09:16:33 PM »

I think not, IF the person had perfect contrition. But that is a BIG "IF". Pretty good reason to stay away from mortal sin eh?

Marsha

Laval · « **Reply #2 on:** December 20, 2012, 09:16:55 PM »

If the person is perfectly contrite, he will be saved. But this is a great grace, and should not be presumed to be obtained in one's final moments.

...But much better to be able to confess - in which case imperfect contrition suffices.

Vladimir · « **Reply #3 on:** December 20, 2012, 11:28:21 PM »

People with melancholic temperaments often fall into great distress when they commit mortal sin because they imagine God to be some bearded man in the sky just waiting for them to fall into sin so that He can zap them with a lightning bolt.

Remember that your life is in God's hands alone. You will die when God wants you to die.

Avoid sin, but if you fall into sin, don't cower in a corner and not dare to go outside for fear that God will punish you with a sudden gust of ill wind, a car accident, etc. Sin prevents you from loving God, it doesn't prevent God from loving you and seeing that you have good intention in your heart. God knows our frailty even more than we know it ourselves. Like we pray in the De Profundis, if God were to deal with us justly according to our sins - who would be saved?

Stubborn · « **Reply #4 on:** December 21, 2012, 04:03:11 AM »

Quote from: InfiniteFaith

Assuming you would have gone to confession the very first chance you get...would you still go to hell if you die before confession?

Hell is the fate that awaits us all if we die in sin. We play the devil's game when we start depending on our own perfect contrition and good intention to go to confession save us - the road to hell is, after all, paved with good intentions.

If we could be certain that our contrition was perfect enough to appease God and to put us in the state of sanctifying grace, would Our Lord have instituted the Sacrament of Penance at all?

If we die in sin before confession, are we not bound to assume that we will end up in hell, not heaven? Remember that Our Lord comes for each and every one of us, like a thief in the night for a reason - and it only takes one sin for us to condemn ourselves forever.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #5 on:** December 21, 2012, 09:10:11 AM »

Our Lady said, "most souls are lost because there is no one to pray for them", that says a lot in my opinion.

She is telling us, if we pray for others they will be given that last chance.

Hope is a wonderful gift of God. We should never dispair nor judge anothers soul. God knows the exact moment of our death, and He gives us grace, it is up to us to accept this grace.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #6 on:** December 21, 2012, 04:49:47 PM »

Quote from: InfiniteFaith

Assuming you would have gone to confession the very first chance you get...would you still go to hell if you die before confession?

Why are you always measuring the sacramental gifts Our Lord has given us? It ain't healthy.

Go to Confession regularly and pray daily that you can refrain from temptations.

Make a list of your weaknesses, look them over, and work immediately and constantly on the ones that would condemn you.

MiserereMeiDeus · « **Reply #7 on:** December 21, 2012, 05:38:37 PM »

On the Number of Sins Beyond Which God Pardons No More

by St. Alphonsus de Liguori

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/morality/general/number.htm

Nadir · « **Reply #8 on:** December 21, 2012, 07:06:37 PM »

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Santo Subito · « **Reply #9 on:** December 21, 2012, 11:06:24 PM »

Quote from: MiserereMeiDeus

On the Number of Sins Beyond Which God Pardons No More

by St. Alphonsus de Liguori

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/morality/general/number.htm

Is this one # for everyone or different #'s?

If different, isn't that unfair?

jen51 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 22, 2012, 09:34:08 AM »

Quote from: Santo Subito

Quote from: MiserereMeiDeus
On the Number of Sins Beyond Which God Pardons No More

by St. Alphonsus de Liguori

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/morality/general/number.htm

Is this one # for everyone or different #'s?

If different, isn't that unfair?

No, it's not unfair. What evidence do you have to decide that God's justice isn't fair, other then the end result that Jane did not get as many chances as Joe? We, as ignorant humans, haven't nearly enough insight into the makeup of an individual's soul to make a just decision on how many chances they get before they shall receive no more. God sees the whole picture. He knows the innterior disposition of every soul. He knows the strengths and failings of every child that he created. He knows just what measure of good and bad will go into every action. He has perfect wisdom, so we can trust that his judgements are correct, and never unfair.

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #11 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:13:08 AM »

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If different, isn't that unfair?

I'm sure your intent is not to question Justice, but be very very careful. You inadvertently attributed a deficiency to Almighty God.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #12 on:** December 22, 2012, 12:39:47 PM »

so at what point do we know that it is pointless to go to confession? Since we have continuously committed the same sin over again, and God has decided not to forgive it any more?

Nadir · « **Reply #13 on:** December 22, 2012, 02:30:04 PM »

Quote from: InfiniteFaith

so at what point do we know that it is pointless to go to confession? Since we have continuously committed the same sin over again, and God has decided not to forgive it any more?

A good and true Confession is NEVER pointless.

If your intention is to commit the sin again then you have not made a good confession, and that is an added sin.

If your intention is not to sin again the Confession is efficacious.

God see the heart. He knows your intentions.

We never decide God's intentions.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #14 on:** December 22, 2012, 02:41:51 PM »

Also there is no sin greater than the mercy of God.