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Re: CNN's Anthony Bourdain dead at 61...
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2018, 02:03:26 AM »
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    So, how does that work? How does one go about asking questions of a dead person? Have a seance? Or hire a witch?
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    Or  do you prefer to rely on tea leaves or the bones of aborted babies which you rub together to make "a sound" (that is,
    a sound that can be interpreted by the initiated as intelligible speech -- a verified technique reported by a priest/exorcist)?
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    Several priests have told me there is absolutely no way of knowing if anyone had achieved perfect contrition at the moment of death, outside of divine revelation, and there has never been such a thing on the official record.
    There is a story from the life of St John Vianney. There was a woman whose husband committed suicide. She was disconsolate. She wrote a letter to St John Vianney and asked to see him without telling him the reason why. When she arrived in Ars she went to see the Saint. When he saw the saint greeted her by telling her that her husband was saved, that he had made an act of contrition between the bridge and teh water and that her prayers could shorten his time in Purgatory.

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    Re: CNN's Anthony Bourdain dead at 61...
    « Reply #31 on: June 17, 2018, 06:19:00 AM »
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  • There is a story from the life of St John Vianney. There was a woman whose husband committed suicide. She was disconsolate. She wrote a letter to St John Vianney and asked to see him without telling him the reason why. When she arrived in Ars she went to see the Saint. When he saw the saint greeted her by telling her that her husband was saved, that he had made an act of contrition between the bridge and teh water and that her prayers could shorten his time in Purgatory.
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    Well there you go, a story from the grapevine. 
    Read it again. I said "official record." Not hearsay. And remember, it's a sin to spread false rumors. 

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    Re: CNN's Anthony Bourdain dead at 61...
    « Reply #32 on: June 17, 2018, 01:11:59 PM »
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    You have no idea -- this is all speculation.
    If you want to speculate, go ahead, but PLEASE base it on reliable facts, not off-the-wall nonsense.
    Right, that's what I'm doing speculating on the facts that I have from his prior personal life, apparent aquaintences and hard core drug use. Bourdain was the consumate hipster who dabbled in a sometimes dangerous subculture full of drug-addled inviduals who were capable of anything at anytime given the circumstance if they were under the influence or in desperate need of money to support their habit. These are the people that he tooled around with, these are the people he felt most comfortable with and these are the people he subjected himself to. He a counter -culture guy and immersed himself in the "lifestyle", so anything's possible.
    I'm not stating for sure that there was foul play at the scene of his death, they just state that he was found from an APPARENT hanging and if you're invovled on the dark side of the culture, anything's possible. I'm not going to get into it, but, I have personally seen the effects of a situation like this in the past. These kind of scenarios are very possible, it's not just some "off the wall" nonsense. Also, we still haven't heard from the results of the toxicology reports whether drugs or medications were invovled, which I have a strong suspicion is the case. and when there's heavy drugs invovled, everything's suspect.

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    Re: CNN's Anthony Bourdain dead at 61...
    « Reply #33 on: June 17, 2018, 07:45:40 PM »
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  • May his soul and the souls of all the faithful departed rest in peace. Amen.
    :pray: :pray: :pray:
    Amen. Also this:
    Bourdain’s untimely death came only weeks after the May 20th airing of the Armenian Genocide episodeof ‘Parts Unknown’ and the still ongoing cover up of the Armenian genocide. . .
    https://coercioncode.com/2018/06/11/anthony-bourdain-blows-whistle-on-armenian-genocide-now-dead/
    Pray for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary

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    Re: CNN's Anthony Bourdain dead at 61...
    « Reply #34 on: June 17, 2018, 08:49:03 PM »
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  • That's very odd for an over century-old event. Especially for something - although very tragic - that happened during the First World War. 

    He did a lot of traveling to questionable parts of the world where political dissenters and opponents are routinely killed, including Russia. If they wanted to ever take him out, they likely had hundreds of opportunities.
    There is a God, but there probably is no Pope Francis.


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    Re: CNN's Anthony Bourdain dead at 61...
    « Reply #35 on: June 17, 2018, 10:48:34 PM »
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    Well there you go, a story from the grapevine.
    Read it again. I said "official record." Not hearsay. And remember, it's a sin to spread false rumors.
    In any event since we don't know what the final judgement was I think it is best for us to pray for the repose of his soul that God give him a merciful judgement.
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    Re: CNN's Anthony Bourdain dead at 61...
    « Reply #36 on: June 19, 2018, 01:40:16 AM »
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  • In any event since we don't know what the final judgement was I think it is best for us to pray for the repose of his soul that God give him a merciful judgement.
    :pray: :pray: :pray:
    Poche, I'm relatively new to taking my faith seriously, but if there's one poison I can speak of to almost causing me to lose my faith entirely, it's over reliance on mercy and clemency.  I'm not saying you necessarily are doing wrong, just that you remind me a lot of how I used to be, and that almost led me to thinking that God was uncaring and cruel once I read through the Bible.

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    Re: CNN's Anthony Bourdain dead at 61...
    « Reply #37 on: June 19, 2018, 03:52:59 AM »
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  • Bourdain’s untimely death came only weeks after the May 20th airing of the Armenian Genocide episodeof ‘Parts Unknown’ and the still ongoing cover up of the Armenian genocide. . .
    https://coercioncode.com/2018/06/11/anthony-bourdain-blows-whistle-on-armenian-genocide-now-dead/
    This could well have precipitated his death.
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    Though I would give too much credibility to that website or to that author, who puts the blame on Muslims for the atrocities, without mentioning that the Young Turks were intent on creating a secular society, and that the Young Turks were principally Jewish and crypto Jewish revolutionaries.
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    https://turkishwrestling.wordpress.com/2012/08/13/mustafa-kemal-ataturks-jewish-family-background/


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    Re: CNN's Anthony Bourdain dead at 61...
    « Reply #38 on: June 19, 2018, 04:14:01 AM »
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  • Poche, I'm relatively new to taking my faith seriously, but if there's one poison I can speak of to almost causing me to lose my faith entirely, it's over reliance on mercy and clemency.  I'm not saying you necessarily are doing wrong, just that you remind me a lot of how I used to be, and that almost led me to thinking that God was uncaring and cruel once I read through the Bible.
    If we can't rely on the clemency and mercy of God then what can we rely on? If God were to give me what I deserve I would be doomed. The sacrament of  confession is an example of the clemency and mercy of God. Through confession we are forgiven of our sins. If God wasn't clement and merciful we would all be lost.

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    Re: CNN's Anthony Bourdain dead at 61...
    « Reply #39 on: June 19, 2018, 08:29:17 AM »
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  • If we can't rely on the clemency and mercy of God then what can we rely on? If God were to give me what I deserve I would be doomed. The sacrament of  confession is an example of the clemency and mercy of God. Through confession we are forgiven of our sins. If God wasn't clement and merciful we would all be lost.
    There is a difference between relying on God's mercy and the sin of presumption.  Due to widespread bad teaching on mercy, a large proportion of people assume that they will be forgiven and accepted by God. They do not understand the need for contrition and penance.  They do not understand the necessity of belonging to the Church.

    This is an extremely serious problem.  It is frustrating that you constantly dismiss the problems in the Church of our time. Everything is not OK. Stop pretending that it is .
    Most sweet Jesus, whose overflowing charity for men is requited by so much forgetfulness, negligence and contempt, behold us prostrate before you, eager to repair by a special act of homage the cruel indifference and injuries to which your loving Heart is

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    Re: CNN's Anthony Bourdain dead at 61...
    « Reply #40 on: June 19, 2018, 09:22:54 AM »
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  • This could well have precipitated his death.
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    Though I would give too much credibility to that website or to that author, who puts the blame on Muslims for the atrocities, without mentioning that the Young Turks were intent on creating a secular society, and that the Young Turks were principally Jewish and crypto Jewish revolutionaries.
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    https://turkishwrestling.wordpress.com/2012/08/13/mustafa-kemal-ataturks-jewish-family-background/

    Bourdain was, at least, half Jew by blood. Jews don't murder or sacrifice other Jews, even when they are in opposition to each other, if they can help it. Some deaths might result that are incidental but not purposeful, as long as the agenda of Jewry is effected.  (It's similar to today's judicial system where Jews don't get convicted of crimes unless they're guilty of defrauding or wronging another Jew. Eg. Bernie Madoff)
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)


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    Re: CNN's Anthony Bourdain dead at 61...
    « Reply #41 on: June 19, 2018, 09:42:26 AM »
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  • Bourdain is in hell for eternity. He was an atheist Jew who committed suicide. He met three conditions of sending a soul to hell:

    1) atheist
    2) not being a member of the only Ark of Salvation - the Catholic Church
    3) suicide is unforgivable, if the person's mental state that led to the suicide wasn't altered by an external contributor such as psychiatric drugs which are proven to do far more harm than good to a person's mental state.

    Bourdain's suicide is an act of despair, and it meets at least 1 of the 6 sins against the Holy Ghost. Sins against the Holy Ghost are unforgivable.

    But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost, shall never have forgiveness, but shall be guilty of an everlasting sin.
    ~ Mark 3:29


    The Catechism of the Council of Trent clearly states:
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    Negative Part Of This Commandment Forbids Murder And Suicide
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    It [5th Commandment] also forbids suicide. No man possesses such power over his own life as to be at liberty to put himself to death. Hence we find that the Commandment does not say: Thou shalt not kill another, but simply: Thou shalt not kill.
    [...]
    http://www.catholicapologetics.info/thechurch/catechism/TenCommandments-fifth.shtml
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    Re: CNN's Anthony Bourdain dead at 61...
    « Reply #42 on: June 19, 2018, 10:02:33 AM »
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  • Bourdain is in hell for eternity. He was an atheist Jew who committed suicide. He met three conditions of sending a soul to hell:

    1) atheist
    2) not being a member of the only Ark of Salvation - the Catholic Church
    3) suicide is unforgivable, if the person's mental state that led to the suicide wasn't altered by an external contributor such as psychiatric drugs which are proven to do far more harm than good to a person's mental state.

    Bourdain's suicide is an act of despair, and it meets at least 1 of the 6 sins against the Holy Ghost. Sins against the Holy Ghost are unforgivable.

    But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost, shall never have forgiveness, but shall be guilty of an everlasting sin.
    ~ Mark 3:29


    The Catechism of the Council of Trent clearly states: http://www.catholicapologetics.info/thechurch/catechism/TenCommandments-fifth.shtml
    With the French origins, he may have been baptized.

    Many of the French (and culturally Catholic ethnicities, for that matter) will have their children baptized for the sake of having it done and then completely reject it. It's just what they did. 

    He may have been part of the Church for like, an hour.
    There is a God, but there probably is no Pope Francis.

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    Re: CNN's Anthony Bourdain dead at 61...
    « Reply #43 on: June 19, 2018, 10:13:50 AM »
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  • Matthew 7:21; 23
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    Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. [...] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.

    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    Re: CNN's Anthony Bourdain dead at 61...
    « Reply #44 on: June 19, 2018, 11:19:16 AM »
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  • Interesting video. I watched most of it. Alex Jones says that Bourdain was going to expose the New World Order, and that he had refused to go along with CNN's plan to have Bourdain involved with Trump-bashing on his show.

    Though I don't totally trust Alex Jones, he does at least offer another POV from that of the brain-washing mainstream media. What I find somewhat implausible is that Elon Musk had been the one that talked Bourdain into realizing the truth about the NWO, and that something should be done about it (though I suppose it's possible).

    It seems unlikely that Bourdain committed suicide.

     

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