I basically agree with you too, but not thanks to you or your pastor. Pax Vobis made your case 100x better than you ever could.
I agree with you 100% on this... I don't know how PV found the time to post all that he did in these threads, I couldn't seem to find the time just to read them all! Nonetheless, good job Pax Vobis, most of what I read of your posts rang true to me.
And to you, Mater, I commend you on your ability to see things objectively... while most others couldn't get past the subjective side of things, that CdF was just bad flypaper...