I wonder how the world would react if the new Pope were to say that active ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs should be thrown into prisons.

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gαy Marriage Proponents (and Opponents) Are Willing to Pay This Much to See This Week’s Supreme Court Arguments
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People queue to enter the Supreme Court in Washington on March 25, 2013. The justices will hear arguments on March 26 on California’s Proposition 8 ban on same-sex marriage and on March 27 on the federal Defense of Marriage Act, which defines marriage as between one man and one woman. Credit: AFP/Getty Images


[From the looks of things, they don't mind if they abandon their folding chairs
to keep from losing their place in line, either.]



WASHINGTON (TheBlaze/AP) — The most expensive ticket to “The Book of Mormon” on Broadway: $477. The face value of a great seat for this year’s Super Bowl: $1,250. Guaranteed seats to watch the U.S. Supreme Court hear this week’s gαy marriage cases: about $6,000.

Tickets to the two arguments that begin Tuesday are technically free. But getting them requires lining up days or hours ahead, or paying someone else to. The first people got in line Thursday, bringing the price of saving a seat to around $6,000.

For some, putting a value on the seats is meaningless, as the arguments are historic in nature and extremely meaningful to those on both sides of the aisle.

“It’s just not possible,” said Fred Sainz a spokesman for the Human Rights Campaign, the nation’s largest gαy rights organization, which began employing two people to stand in line Thursday.

The court will hear arguments Tuesday over California’s ban on same-sex marriage. On Wednesday, the court will take up the federal Defense of Marriage Act, the 1996 federal law that defines marriage as between one man and one woman. Supporters and opponents of same-sex marriage say the cases are so potentially historic that they want to be inside the courtroom to watch, no matter what the cost in time or money...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/20/world/americas/argentina-pope-civil-unions

Behind closed doors, pope supported civil unions in Argentina, activist says ...

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Behind closed doors, pope supported civil unions in Argentina, activist says
By Rafael Romo, Jose Manuel Rodriguez and Catherine E. Shoichet, CNN
updated 2:22 PM EDT, Thu March 21, 2013
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    An activist and a pastor say the pope told them he supported civil unions in Argentina
    Reports say the pope also pushed bishops to support the idea at a 2010 meeting
    As archbishop of Buenos Aires, the pope was a vocal opponent to same-sex marriage
    The pope once called same-sex marriage "a destructive attack on God's plan"

Buenos Aires (CNN) -- Less than an hour after he fired off an angry letter to Catholic Church leaders about their handling of Argentina's same-sex marriage debate, Marcelo Marquez says his phone rang.

He was surprised to hear the voice on the other end of the line. It was Jorge Mario Bergoglio, then the archbishop of Buenos Aires, and now the pope.

What Bergoglio said to him at a meeting soon afterward that year, 2010, was even more surprising, Marquez said.

For months, church officials had made sharp, public criticisms of the push to legalize same-sex marriage in the South American country. But privately, Bergoglio seemed to be more open to discussion, according to Marquez.

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"He told me. ... 'I'm in favor of gαy rights and in any case, I also favor civil unions for ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, but I believe that Argentina is not yet ready for a gαy marriage law,'" said Marquez, a gαy rights activist, a self-described devout Catholic and a former theology professor at a Catholic seminary.

The pope's reported willingness behind-the-scenes to accept civil unions as a compromise may offer new insight into how he will lead the world's 1.2 billion Catholics.

A public battle

As archbishop of Buenos Aires, Bergoglio was one of the leaders of the Catholic Church's public charge against legalizing same-sex marriage in Argentina. He engaged in a notorious war of words with the government of President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, who supported the measure.

Bergoglio put himself in the middle of the fight, calling the proposed legislation "a destructive attack on God's plan."

With a front-page counterpunch, the president said the church possessed "attitudes reminiscent of medieval times and the Inquisition."

Some point to the public battle as evidence of Bergoglio's traditionalist views.

But behind closed doors, Marquez said, the man who would become pope appeared to be more open to discussion of the issue.

In another meeting, Bergoglio told him he had always treated gαy people with respect and dignity.

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"I have accompanied many ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ people during my career to tend to their spiritual needs," Bergoglio said at the time, according to Marquez.

Pope was 'very open, very frank'

Bergoglio, who chose the name Pope Francis after he was elected pontiff last week, may have voiced his support for civil unions in other circles.

Andres Albertsen, a former pastor of the Danish Church in Buenos Aires, said Bergoglio made similar comments about civil unions to him in a private meeting.

"In this conversation that we had, he showed himself to be very open, very frank with me," Albertsen told CNN en Español on Wednesday. "He told me that he would have accepted a civil union."

According to a story published by The New York Times on Wednesday, Bergoglio also told bishops at a 2010 meeting that the church should support civil unions for gαy couples.

CNN could not independently confirm the details of the Argentine bishops' meeting, which was also described in a July 2010 article published by Argentina's Clarin newspaper.

"Bergoglio -- faithful to his moderate position -- proposed continuing measured actions. ... He would suggest, also, that the church discreetly accept the intermediate alternative of the civil union -- authorizing a series of rights (inheritance, social work) -- that would not equate to marriage nor permit adoption," wrote journalist Sergio Rubin -- now Bergoglio's biographer.

But that proposal was rejected by bishops, who voted instead to begin a high-profile, public battle against same-sex marriage, Rubin wrote.

Pushing for dialogue

A senior Vatican official said he could neither confirm nor deny The New York Times report at this point, adding that while Pope Francis might have expressed such a view while he was a cardinal, he should be given time to develop his policy position as pontiff.

Alejandro Russo, the rector of the Metropolitan Cathedral in Buenos Aires, said it was unlikely the pope had ever expressed such a view, even in private.

In 2007, Bergoglio publicly criticized Buenos Aires' government for allowing civil unions, Russo said. His relationship with the mayor of Buenos Aires soured over the matter.

gαy rights advocates in Argentina later argued that civil unions, allowed in a several states, were a positive step that conferred some benefits to same-sex couples, but didn't go far enough. The same-sex marriage measure, they said, would treat ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ and heterosɛҳuąƖ relationships equally before the law. It would permit gαy couples to adopt, and also allow the inheritance of property.

Argentina approved a law legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide in July 2010.

Even though Bergoglio was one of the law's most well known opponents, Marquez said on Wednesday that he hopes the pontiff will remain open to discussion, just as he appeared to be several years ago in Buenos Aires.

"We are going to try to have a dialogue with the pope," said Marquez, who works for Argentina's National Institute Against Discrimination. "It's frightening, but I think it must be done."

'He's really moderate on this issue'

Word of the pope's reported support for civil unions in Argentina sparked debate, with some praising his stance and saying it was a hopeful sign of possible reforms.

"He wanted to respect human rights. That's the real surprise here, that people say, well he's anti-gαy. You can be anti-gαy marriage and not be anti-gαy, and I think there's a distinction here," said the Rev. Edward Beck, a CNN contributor and host of "The Sunday Mass" on ABC Family. "He's really moderate on this issue, it seems."

Others, though, were more skeptical.

One Argentine journalist said Wednesday that he wasn't quite ready to celebrate.

In an article titled, "Francis, the pope that declares war on us and later calls us on the phone," journalist Bruno Bimbi said it wasn't clear how the pope will handle the issue of same-sex unions.

"Maybe the lion has become a lamb. Maybe, as a priest told me the day his election was announced, maybe he is worried about his biography and wants to go down in history. I do not know," Bimbi wrote. "Whatever he does, this time he won't be able to blame others for the pressures. Now he's in charge."

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CNN's Jose Manuel Rodriguez reported from Buenos Aires and CNN's Rafael Romo and Catherine E. Shoichet reported from Atlanta. CNN's Hada Messia in Rome and Mariano Castillo in Atlanta contributed to this report.

Take the CNN gαy propaganda piece with a grain of salt.  Its aim is to demoralise, and to keep the vile subject in front of children, in order to de-sensitise and turn  the unmentionable into dinner conversation with the kids.

Francis I is at variance with Catholic teaching.

There have been so many lies and untruths circulating about Pope Francis that the prudent course to take is to withhold judgment about anything you hear coming from the MSM.   Until something can be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, I would hope that most Catholics are willing to give the Holy Father the benefit of the doubt.  Even if Pope Francis did suggest (which still hasn't been irrefutably proven) allowing such unions as a lesser of two evils, there is no way that the Church is ever going to reverse any of her teachings on ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity by allowing compromises or permit such so called marriages.  Lets just pray that Mother Mary will tenderly wrap her mantle over Francis to protect and assist in all things and obtain for the strength and courage to always do what is right and pleasing in the sight of God.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/bergoglio-didnt-suggest-endorsing-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ-civil-unions-in-2010-says-conf

BUENOS AIRES, March 21, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Miguel Woites, a confidant of Pope Francis while he was archbishop of Buenos Aires, is denying a widely publicized claim that the then-Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio suggested the endorsement of gαy civil unions as an alternative to "ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ marriage" during a private meeting with fellow bishops in 2010.

 In an interview granted to the Catholic news agency ACI Prensa, Woites said that the story "isn't true. It's a complete error."

The principle source of the claim, Bergoglio biographer Sergio Rubín, "never said who told him, when they told him," said Woites. "It's not correct to write something like that out of thin air. That (New York Times) article was very criticized by the bishops. He certainly would have referred to unions of convenience but not that anything be legalized."

 

There have been so many lies and untruths circulating about Pope Francis that the prudent course to take is to withhold judgment about anything you hear coming from the MSM.   Until something can be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, I would hope that most Catholics are willing to give the Holy Father the benefit of the doubt.  Even if Pope Francis did suggest (which still hasn't been irrefutably proven) allowing such unions as a lesser of two evils, there is no way that the Church is ever going to reverse any of her teachings on ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity by allowing compromises or permit such so called marriages.  Lets just pray that Mother Mary will tenderly wrap her mantle over Francis to protect and assist in all things and obtain for the strength and courage to always do what is right and pleasing in the sight of God.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/bergoglio-didnt-suggest-endorsing-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ-civil-unions-in-2010-says-conf

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BUENOS AIRES, March 21, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Miguel Woites, a confidant of Pope Francis while he was archbishop of Buenos Aires, is denying a widely publicized claim that the then-Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio suggested the endorsement of gαy civil unions as an alternative to "ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ marriage" during a private meeting with fellow bishops in 2010.

 In an interview granted to the Catholic news agency ACI Prensa, Woites said that the story "isn't true. It's a complete error."

The principle source of the claim, Bergoglio biographer Sergio Rubín, "never said who told him, when they told him," said Woites. "It's not correct to write something like that out of thin air. That (New York Times) article was very criticized by the bishops. He certainly would have referred to unions of convenience but not that anything be legalized."

The fact is that many seminaries are filled with the effeminate and those addicted to unnatural vice. Bergoglio is a longstanding member of a hierarchy that has tolerated and promoted this behaviour by, at a minimum, their implicit consent. This is the MSM telling us this, it's just a fact. It seems you (and those like you) are the ones "wrapping a mantle" over the reality of the situation.