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Offline Lover of Truth

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Christmas ThanksgivingAdvent Tree
« on: December 16, 2015, 08:22:10 AM »
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  •  :jumping2:

    The above grabbed my attention so I put him in.

    Legal disclaimer.  By "him" I meant "him or "her".

    When do you take it down?  

    Do you drink to excess on Christmas?  Are you frantic with buying things and mailing things.  Is the tree very important to you?  Why or why not?  
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    « Reply #1 on: December 16, 2015, 09:48:36 AM »
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  • We do have a ChristmasThanksgivingAdvent tree in my household. Usually it involves throwing everything involving Advent and Thanksgiving rather violently at a tree.

    But seriously, it went up after Thanksgiving and it'll probably go down before Epiphany.
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    « Reply #2 on: December 16, 2015, 10:04:52 AM »
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  • Our living room is also the school room, so we can't put the Christmas tree up until we put away all the stuff needed for school and take our Christmas break.  So the tree goes up usually a day or two before Christmas Eve.  Christmas Eve isn't really viable as we usually go to midnight Mass and have a 90 minute drive to Church, so Christmas eve is a day to rest and try to nap in order to be wide awake to go to Mass.

    We take the tree down after New Year's Day but before the Epiphany so that we can bring out the school materials and restart school after a break.  I would like to keep the tree up longer, but we just don't have the room, though I guess we could send the kids to public school so we could keep the tree up longer.......  Nah.  

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    « Reply #3 on: December 16, 2015, 10:15:33 AM »
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  • I have children.  We like to decorate our home throughout the Advent season culminating with the decoration of our Christmas tree on Christmas Eve, a Christmas Eve traditional Cajun meal, the reading of the Christmas story, and then Mass.  

    On the first Sunday of Advent we put out the Advent wreath and get out the Nativity.  We set up a "stable" with an empty crib surrounded by hay.  For each good deed, they put a piece of hay into the crib.  We have a kneeler by our little altar. We put the Holy Family in another part of the house to make their journey to Bethlehem.  We move them closer to the stable each Sunday of Advent.

    On the eve of St. Nicholas' Day, we hang our stockings and decorate a shelf as a shrine for St. Nicholas.  We have an image, some blessed candles and greenery.  The children get small gifts, and a bag of "golden" coins with reminders to continue doing good deeds.

    We usually hang our lights Thanksgiving weekend, but we do not turn them on until St. Lucy's Day.  We usually have special treats, say prayers, and my husband turns on the lights.

    The weekend before Christmas we go as a family to select a tree.  We keep it outside until Christmas eve.  Christmas Eve is a busy time for us.  We bring in our tree.  I bake in anticipation of Christmas.  We decorate the tree and then I cook for our evening meal of fried oysters and shrimp.  :)

    I know this seems complicated, but it really helps the children stay focused on Advent.

    At Thanksgiving, we draw a name and each person has a special person they have to do simple good things for during Advent.  




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    « Reply #4 on: December 16, 2015, 10:19:51 AM »
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  • I've always decorated a couple of weeks before Christmas. However, the FSSP priest said during the homily recently that as Catholics we should not decorate until Christmas eve, so my non-Catholic husband has agreed to not decorate or put up a tree until Christmas eve.  :smile:
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    « Reply #5 on: December 16, 2015, 02:48:34 PM »
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  • We put up our tree either on or in preparation for Gaudete Sunday.

    I once envisioned a dramatic shift between Advent and Christmas, but it never worked out well having so much to do all at once. So, we have more of a gradual transition starting at Gaudete Sunday.
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    « Reply #6 on: December 16, 2015, 07:15:42 PM »
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  • It is the Nativity scene ONLY!  Per Wikipedia:

    Customs of erecting decorated trees in wintertime can be traced to Christmas celebrations in Renaissance-era guilds in Northern Germany and Livonia. The first evidence of decorated trees associated with Christmas Day are trees in guildhalls decorated with sweets to be enjoyed by the apprentices and children. In Livonia (present-day Latvia and Estonia), in 1441, 1442, 1510 and 1514, the Brotherhood of Blackheads erected a tree for the holidays in their guild houses in Riga and Reval (now Tallinn). On the last night of the celebrations leading up to the holidays, the tree was taken to the Town Hall Square where the members of the brotherhood danced around it.[19] A Bremen guild chronicle of 1570 reports that a small tree decorated with "apples, nuts, dates, pretzels and paper flowers" was erected in the guild-house for the benefit of the guild members' children, who collected the dainties on Christmas Day.[3] In 1584, the pastor and chronicler Balthasar Russow in his Chronica der Provinz Lyfflandt (1584) wrote of an established tradition of setting up a decorated spruce at the market square where the young men "went with a flock of maidens and women, first sang and danced there and then set the tree aflame".
    After the Protestant Reformation, such trees are seen in the houses of upper-class Protestant families as a counterpart to the Catholic Christmas cribs. This transition from the guild hall to the bourgeois family homes in the Protestant parts of Germany ultimately gives rise to the modern tradition as it developed in the 18th and 19th centuries.


    18th to early 20th centuries

    Germany

    A little Christmas tree on the table, painting by Ludwig Blume-Siebert in 1888
    By the early 18th century, the custom had become common in towns of the upper Rhineland, but it had not yet spread to rural areas. Wax candles, expensive items at the time, are found in attestations from the late 18th century.
    Along the lower Rhine, an area of Roman Catholic majority, the Christmas tree was largely regarded as a Protestant custom. As a result, it remained confined to the upper Rhineland for a relatively long period of time. The custom did eventually gain wider acceptance beginning around 1815 by way of Prussian officials who emigrated there following the Congress of Vienna.
    In the 19th century, the Christmas tree was taken to be an expression of German culture and of Gemütlichkeit, especially among emigrants overseas.[20]
    A decisive factor in winning general popularity was the German army's decision to place Christmas trees in its barracks and military hospitals during the Franco-Prussian War. Only at the start of the 20th century did Christmas trees appear inside churches, this time in a new brightly lit form.


    It has always been the Nativity scene, in fact the first tree to appear at the Vatican was in 1982 under JP2, that should tell you all you need to know.

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    « Reply #7 on: December 20, 2015, 07:19:51 PM »
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  • Advent is a time for prayer and reflection leading up to the holy day... obviously not to the same extent as Lent, but still it is a quiet and thoughtful time.

    So this is a big reason why our Christmas tree by family tradition is purchased maybe a couple weeks before Christmas and lurks outside the home until the day or two before Christmas Day.

    Because my work schedule this year means I won't have any time off until Christmas Eve and there will be so much to do on that day before we begin fasting and leave for Midnight Mass.... I will bring the tree in on Wednesday... trim it... and put it up. But decorations will go up on Christmas Eve morning. The lights will be turned on the first time as it gets dark out on Christmas Eve.

    The Nativity will be set up on Christmas Eve after the tree is done... and it goes right under the tree.... the statues of Our Lady and St. Joseph are placed in the stable... but our Lord is kept up on a shelf until we come home from Mass and it's officially Christmas.

    And we exchange gifts and hang out together - my whole family - the rest of the night until dawn.

    We don't drink alcohol in my family. :)

    Forgot to say - our tree stays up about a week or two into January.


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    « Reply #8 on: December 21, 2015, 05:01:25 PM »
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  • Our grandchildren put up our tree for us within the week before Christmas and it is left up till Three Kings Day when we add the images of the 3 kings to the stable.
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    « Reply #9 on: December 21, 2015, 05:06:54 PM »
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  • This year we got the tree on December 20th, but we haven't put it up yet. We put the presents under the tree on Christmas Eve and sometimes over night into Christmas morning. And we usually leave the tree up until well after Christmas because we like having the tree there in the house because it is nice and pretty.
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