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...how is this applicable here in America?
Im more of a separation of Church and State kind of guy. I don't believe that God intended for human beings to impose God's laws on other human beings. God wanted humanity to have free-will so that we can choose him. He doesn't want us to be forced into Him.
55. The Church ought to be separated from the .State, and the State from the Church.—Allocution "Acerbissimum," Sept. 27, 1852.
Im more of a separation of Church and State kind of guy. I don't believe that God intended for human beings to impose God's laws on other human beings. God wanted humanity to have free-will so that we can choose him. He doesn't want us to be forced into Him. Yeah I wouldn't mind a Catholic State, but what I would really like to see would be a Catholic controlled government who is more libertarian. Only this Catholic controlled government rules by means of agenda as opposed to by upholding laws on people who don't believe in God. So I would like to see a government who imposes Catholic Agenda on its people.
Quote from: InfiniteFaithIm more of a separation of Church and State kind of guy. I don't believe that God intended for human beings to impose God's laws on other human beings. God wanted humanity to have free-will so that we can choose him. He doesn't want us to be forced into Him. Yeah I wouldn't mind a Catholic State, but what I would really like to see would be a Catholic controlled government who is more libertarian. Only this Catholic controlled government rules by means of agenda as opposed to by upholding laws on people who don't believe in God. So I would like to see a government who imposes Catholic Agenda on its people. This is by far the stupidest thing I have ever read on this forum. You can't separate God from His creation, do you have any idea of how ridiculous and heretical it is to say something like that?God intended for governments to obey His Laws. To say He doesn't expect His Laws to be taught to others is an incredibly naive statement. Pius IX, as Pyrrhos pointed out, condemned separation of Church and state.
I think you are blowing things out of proportion. I never said that the government should not promote Catholic teachings. As a matter of fact I was saying that they should.I don't think that the government should uphold laws that reflect Catholic Teachings on people. People have free-will and the they should have the choice to accept or reject the Catholic Faith. If the government started to uphold [Catholic] laws on people then the government would be forcing people into Catholicism.You are Stupid.
Quote from: InfiniteFaithI think you are blowing things out of proportion. I never said that the government should not promote Catholic teachings. As a matter of fact I was saying that they should.I don't think that the government should uphold laws that reflect Catholic Teachings on people. People have free-will and the they should have the choice to accept or reject the Catholic Faith. If the government started to uphold [Catholic] laws on people then the government would be forcing people into Catholicism.You are Stupid.Are you a Trad I.F.? Regardless, you should do more reading than what is put out to us in secular/N.O. schools and the media. There's a lot more to this, from a truly Catholic viewpoint, than what you seem to think.
I think you are blowing things out of proportion. I never said that the government should not promote Catholic teachings. As a matter of fact I was saying that they should.
I don't think that the government should uphold laws that reflect Catholic Teachings on people. People have free-will and the they should have the choice to accept or reject the Catholic Faith. If the government started to uphold [Catholic] laws on people then the government would be forcing people into Catholicism.
You are Stupid.
Quote from: InfiniteFaithI think you are blowing things out of proportion. I never said that the government should not promote Catholic teachings. As a matter of fact I was saying that they should. And I never claimed you said that.QuoteI don't think that the government should uphold laws that reflect Catholic Teachings on people. People have free-will and the they should have the choice to accept or reject the Catholic Faith. If the government started to uphold [Catholic] laws on people then the government would be forcing people into Catholicism. This right here is what I disagree with. Using your logic, we should never try to convert anyone because they have a free will. It's our duty as Catholics to spread the truth, and the truth is that the Catholic Church is the One True Church. And just because you uphold God's Laws does not mean you must also force people to become Catholics. The government should recommend that everyone become Catholic, but it's impossible to convert everyone.QuoteYou are Stupid. No, your comment is what's stupid. And if you can't debate without attacking my character then you should back out of the argument.