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Traditional Catholic Faith => General Discussion => Topic started by: Phyllo on February 23, 2017, 05:58:03 PM
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Hi,
I was just listening to a talk given on the Catholic site FORMED.org The priest was talking about the Charismatic renewal and being baptized in the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues. To me this part of his talk sounded very Protestant. I have been to one of these meetings held before Mass and I was very uncomfortable. I felt like I was present at an Evangelic alter call. People babbling in tongues,raising their arms and swinging to the music of a "rock"band. Most upsetting to me was that my favorite Priest was all into it and singing its praises. Is it just me who thinks this way?
Does the Traditional Church have any teaching on these Charismatic Renewal meetings?
Full disclosure I am a TLM attendee.
Thanks
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FORMED.org looks suspicious from the front page. You have to register and pay $10 a month, and log in to read anything at all. No explanation? Why are you going there?
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Does the Traditional Church have any teaching on these Charismatic Renewal meetings?
Yes. The Catholic Church condemns all of this. It is Protestant at best. It is not Catholic.
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John Vennari wrote a book about charismaticism actually.
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Killing two birds with one stone:
A Book that Shows Why It Is Not Catholic
Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.
Book-review on Close-Ups of the Charismatic Movement by John Vennari
(Los Angeles: TIA, 2002), 175 pp.
http://www.traditioninaction.org/bkreviews/A_011br_CloseUps_Horvat.htm
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The Charismatic renewal is very much into inspiration form the Holy Spirit. There was a lady who posted on Catholic Answers that she went to the TLM for the first time. There she felt very much the presence of the Holy Spirit.
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FORMED.org looks suspicious from the front page. You have to register and pay $10 a month, and log in to read anything at all. No explanation? Why are you going there?
I get it for free from my Parrish. there is a series of talks by Brant Pitre on John 6 that I think are great.
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Killing two birds with one stone:
A Book that Shows Why It Is Not Catholic
Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.
Book-review on Close-Ups of the Charismatic Movement by John Vennari
(Los Angeles: TIA, 2002), 175 pp.
http://www.traditioninaction.org/bkreviews/A_011br_CloseUps_Horvat.htm
Thanks. I like John, I'll have to check into this book.
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Killing two birds with one stone:
A Book that Shows Why It Is Not Catholic
Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.
Book-review on Close-Ups of the Charismatic Movement by John Vennari
(Los Angeles: TIA, 2002), 175 pp.
http://www.traditioninaction.org/bkreviews/A_011br_CloseUps_Horvat.htm
I checked out this book and it is over $40.00. Know where I can get a cheaper one?
and that was a used book.
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There is a video on Sensus Fidelium youtube called On the Errors of Pentacostalim - aka Charismatic Renewal.
It's a pretty good video.
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John Vennari wrote a book about charismaticism actually.
Yes, that's right.
He exposed Franciscan U's "holy-roller" activity in Steubenville, Ohio.
Around 2003 ?
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You mean, "stupidville"?
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Killing two birds with one stone:
A Book that Shows Why It Is Not Catholic
Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.
Book-review on Close-Ups of the Charismatic Movement by John Vennari
(Los Angeles: TIA, 2002), 175 pp.
http://www.traditioninaction.org/bkreviews/A_011br_CloseUps_Horvat.htm
I checked out this book and it is over $40.00. Know where I can get a cheaper one?
and that was a used book.
You should be able to find many articles online for free by John Vennari of Catholic Family News CFN, also Mary Horvath should have many free articles too. Go to Tradition in Action website for Mary Horvath articles and from other authors.
Catholic Charismatic movement was invented in like 1966. "Come next Saturday at 2pm to see Fr. Xyz bring down the "Spirit", don't be late or you'll miss it! The Novus Ordo will do anything to get someone to come and occupy a seat and put money in the basket, just like Protestant ministers, religious businessmen that have to create a niche business for themselves to make a living. Sometimes a very famous and rich business!
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Killing two birds with one stone:
A Book that Shows Why It Is Not Catholic
Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.
Book-review on Close-Ups of the Charismatic Movement by John Vennari
(Los Angeles: TIA, 2002), 175 pp.
http://www.traditioninaction.org/bkreviews/A_011br_CloseUps_Horvat.htm
I checked out this book and it is over $40.00. Know where I can get a cheaper one?
and that was a used book.
You should be able to find many articles online for free by John Vennari of Catholic Family News CFN, also Mary Horvath should have many free articles too. Go to Tradition in Action website for Mary Horvath articles and from other authors.
Catholic Charismatic movement was invented in like 1966. "Come next Saturday at 2pm to see Fr. Xyz bring down the "Spirit", don't be late or you'll miss it! The Novus Ordo will do anything to get someone to come and occupy a seat and put money in the basket, just like Protestant ministers, religious businessmen that have to create a niche business for themselves to make a living. Sometimes a very famous and rich business!
I'll check out this site. I get the CFN delivered and I enjoy it.
Thanks
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There is a video on Sensus Fidelium youtube called On the Errors of Pentacostalim - aka Charismatic Renewal.
It's a pretty good video.
I'll check this out.,
I would still like to read his book though.
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Here in Ireland the pro-life, pro-family lobby is mainly an extension of the charismatic movement. Many do admit groups like Youth 2000 are a halfway house but being a Traditional Catholic means you are unwelcome from their events.
Overall if you are not a supporter of Medjugorje or JPII you are not welcome in their group. The pilgrimage to Medjugorje is almost the 'rite of passage' to be part of their groups.
Traditional youth groups here don't get as many people as groups like Youth 2000 would. We just don't have the same appeal.
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There is a video on Sensus Fidelium youtube called On the Errors of Pentacostalim - aka Charismatic Renewal.
It's a pretty good video.
This is a good site. thanks