Author Topic: Charismatic Renewal (Read 2184 times)

Phyllo · « **on:** February 23, 2017, 05:58:03 PM »

Hi,

I was just listening to a talk given on the Catholic site FORMED.org The priest was talking about the Charismatic renewal and being baptized in the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues. To me this part of his talk sounded very Protestant. I have been to one of these meetings held before Mass and I was very uncomfortable. I felt like I was present at an Evangelic alter call. People babbling in tongues,raising their arms and swinging to the music of a "rock"band. Most upsetting to me was that my favorite Priest was all into it and singing its praises. Is it just me who thinks this way?

Does the Traditional Church have any teaching on these Charismatic Renewal meetings?

Full disclosure I am a TLM attendee.

Thanks

Nadir · « **Reply #1 on:** February 23, 2017, 07:06:02 PM »

FORMED.org looks suspicious from the front page. You have to register and pay $10 a month, and log in to read anything at all. No explanation? Why are you going there?

TKGS · « **Reply #2 on:** February 23, 2017, 08:08:27 PM »

Quote from: Phyllo

Does the Traditional Church have any teaching on these Charismatic Renewal meetings?

Yes. The Catholic Church condemns all of this. It is Protestant at best. It is not Catholic.

Kephapaulos · « **Reply #3 on:** February 23, 2017, 09:15:02 PM »

John Vennari wrote a book about charismaticism actually.

Nadir · « **Reply #4 on:** February 23, 2017, 09:47:18 PM »

Killing two birds with one stone:

A Book that Shows Why It Is Not Catholic

Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.

Book-review on Close-Ups of the Charismatic Movement by John Vennari
(Los Angeles: TIA, 2002), 175 pp.

http://www.traditioninaction.org/bkreviews/A_011br_CloseUps_Horvat.htm

poche · « **Reply #5 on:** February 23, 2017, 11:51:45 PM »

The Charismatic renewal is very much into inspiration form the Holy Spirit. There was a lady who posted on Catholic Answers that she went to the TLM for the first time. There she felt very much the presence of the Holy Spirit.

Phyllo · « **Reply #6 on:** February 24, 2017, 07:10:07 AM »

Quote from: Nadir

FORMED.org looks suspicious from the front page. You have to register and pay $10 a month, and log in to read anything at all. No explanation? Why are you going there?

I get it for free from my Parrish. there is a series of talks by Brant Pitre on John 6 that I think are great.

Phyllo · « **Reply #7 on:** February 24, 2017, 07:13:28 AM »

Quote from: Nadir

Killing two birds with one stone:

A Book that Shows Why It Is Not Catholic

Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.

Book-review on Close-Ups of the Charismatic Movement by John Vennari
(Los Angeles: TIA, 2002), 175 pp.

http://www.traditioninaction.org/bkreviews/A_011br_CloseUps_Horvat.htm

Thanks. I like John, I'll have to check into this book.

Phyllo · « **Reply #8 on:** February 24, 2017, 07:26:35 AM »

Quote from: Nadir

Killing two birds with one stone:

A Book that Shows Why It Is Not Catholic

Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.

Book-review on Close-Ups of the Charismatic Movement by John Vennari
(Los Angeles: TIA, 2002), 175 pp.

http://www.traditioninaction.org/bkreviews/A_011br_CloseUps_Horvat.htm

I checked out this book and it is over $40.00. Know where I can get a cheaper one?

and that was a used book.

magdalena59 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 25, 2017, 02:23:32 PM »

There is a video on Sensus Fidelium youtube called On the Errors of Pentacostalim - aka Charismatic Renewal.

It's a pretty good video.

Incredulous · « **Reply #10 on:** February 25, 2017, 03:01:00 PM »

Quote from: Kephapaulos

John Vennari wrote a book about charismaticism actually.

Yes, that's right.
He exposed Franciscan U's "holy-roller" activity in Steubenville, Ohio.
Around 2003 ?

songbird · « **Reply #11 on:** February 25, 2017, 04:31:19 PM »

You mean, "stupidville"?

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #12 on:** February 26, 2017, 03:08:48 AM »

Quote from: Phyllo

Quote from: Nadir
Killing two birds with one stone:

A Book that Shows Why It Is Not Catholic

Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.

Book-review on Close-Ups of the Charismatic Movement by John Vennari
(Los Angeles: TIA, 2002), 175 pp.

http://www.traditioninaction.org/bkreviews/A_011br_CloseUps_Horvat.htm

I checked out this book and it is over $40.00. Know where I can get a cheaper one?

and that was a used book.

You should be able to find many articles online for free by John Vennari of Catholic Family News CFN, also Mary Horvath should have many free articles too. Go to Tradition in Action website for Mary Horvath articles and from other authors.

Catholic Charismatic movement was invented in like 1966. "Come next Saturday at 2pm to see Fr. Xyz bring down the "Spirit", don't be late or you'll miss it! The Novus Ordo will do anything to get someone to come and occupy a seat and put money in the basket, just like Protestant ministers, religious businessmen that have to create a niche business for themselves to make a living. Sometimes a very famous and rich business!

Phyllo · « **Reply #13 on:** February 26, 2017, 11:18:30 AM »

Quote from: Last Tradhican

Quote from: Phyllo
Quote from: Nadir
Killing two birds with one stone:

A Book that Shows Why It Is Not Catholic

Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.

Book-review on Close-Ups of the Charismatic Movement by John Vennari
(Los Angeles: TIA, 2002), 175 pp.

http://www.traditioninaction.org/bkreviews/A_011br_CloseUps_Horvat.htm

I checked out this book and it is over $40.00. Know where I can get a cheaper one?

and that was a used book.

You should be able to find many articles online for free by John Vennari of Catholic Family News CFN, also Mary Horvath should have many free articles too. Go to Tradition in Action website for Mary Horvath articles and from other authors.

Catholic Charismatic movement was invented in like 1966. "Come next Saturday at 2pm to see Fr. Xyz bring down the "Spirit", don't be late or you'll miss it! The Novus Ordo will do anything to get someone to come and occupy a seat and put money in the basket, just like Protestant ministers, religious businessmen that have to create a niche business for themselves to make a living. Sometimes a very famous and rich business!

I'll check out this site. I get the CFN delivered and I enjoy it.
Thanks

Phyllo · « **Reply #14 on:** February 26, 2017, 11:20:28 AM »

Quote from: magdalena59

There is a video on Sensus Fidelium youtube called On the Errors of Pentacostalim - aka Charismatic Renewal.

It's a pretty good video.

I'll check this out.,

I would still like to read his book though.