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Offline Phyllo

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« on: February 23, 2017, 05:58:03 PM »
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  • Hi,

    I was just listening to a talk given on the Catholic site FORMED.org The priest was talking about the Charismatic renewal and being baptized in the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues.  To me this part of his talk sounded very Protestant. I have been to one of these meetings held before Mass and I was very uncomfortable.  I felt like I was present at an Evangelic alter call. People babbling in tongues,raising their arms and swinging to the  music of  a "rock"band. Most upsetting to me was that my favorite Priest was all into it and singing its praises.  Is it just me who thinks this way?

    Does the Traditional Church have any teaching on these Charismatic Renewal meetings?

    Full disclosure I am a TLM attendee.

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    « Reply #1 on: February 23, 2017, 07:06:02 PM »
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  • FORMED.org looks suspicious from the front page. You have to register and pay $10 a month, and log in to read anything at all. No explanation? Why are you going there?


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    « Reply #2 on: February 23, 2017, 08:08:27 PM »
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  • Quote from: Phyllo
    Does the Traditional Church have any teaching on these Charismatic Renewal meetings?


    Yes.  The Catholic Church condemns all of this.  It is Protestant at best.  It is not Catholic.  

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    « Reply #3 on: February 23, 2017, 09:15:02 PM »
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  • John Vennari wrote a book about charismaticism actually.
    "Non nobis, Domine, non nobis; sed nomini tuo da gloriam..." (Ps. 113:9)

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    « Reply #4 on: February 23, 2017, 09:47:18 PM »
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  • Killing two birds with one stone:

    A Book that Shows Why It Is Not Catholic

    Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.

    Book-review on Close-Ups of the Charismatic Movement by John Vennari
    (Los Angeles: TIA, 2002), 175 pp.

    http://www.traditioninaction.org/bkreviews/A_011br_CloseUps_Horvat.htm


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    « Reply #5 on: February 23, 2017, 11:51:45 PM »
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  • The Charismatic renewal is very much into inspiration form the Holy Spirit. There was a lady who posted on Catholic Answers that she went to the TLM for the first time. There she felt very much the presence of the Holy Spirit.
     

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    « Reply #6 on: February 24, 2017, 07:10:07 AM »
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  • Quote from: Nadir
    FORMED.org looks suspicious from the front page. You have to register and pay $10 a month, and log in to read anything at all. No explanation? Why are you going there?


    I get it for free from my Parrish.  there is a series of talks by Brant Pitre on John 6 that I think are great.

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    « Reply #7 on: February 24, 2017, 07:13:28 AM »
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    Killing two birds with one stone:

    A Book that Shows Why It Is Not Catholic

    Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.

    Book-review on Close-Ups of the Charismatic Movement by John Vennari
    (Los Angeles: TIA, 2002), 175 pp.

    http://www.traditioninaction.org/bkreviews/A_011br_CloseUps_Horvat.htm



    Thanks.  I like John, I'll have to check into this book.


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    « Reply #8 on: February 24, 2017, 07:26:35 AM »
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  • Quote from: Nadir
    Killing two birds with one stone:

    A Book that Shows Why It Is Not Catholic

    Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.

    Book-review on Close-Ups of the Charismatic Movement by John Vennari
    (Los Angeles: TIA, 2002), 175 pp.

    http://www.traditioninaction.org/bkreviews/A_011br_CloseUps_Horvat.htm




    I checked out this book and it is over $40.00.  Know where I can get a cheaper one?

    and that was a used book.

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    « Reply #9 on: February 25, 2017, 02:23:32 PM »
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  • There is a video on Sensus Fidelium youtube called On the Errors of Pentacostalim - aka Charismatic Renewal.

    It's a pretty good video.
    Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle. 2Thessalonians 2:15

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    « Reply #10 on: February 25, 2017, 03:01:00 PM »
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  • Quote from: Kephapaulos
    John Vennari wrote a book about charismaticism actually.


    Yes, that's right.
    He exposed Franciscan U's "holy-roller" activity in Steubenville, Ohio.
    Around 2003 ?


    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    « Reply #11 on: February 25, 2017, 04:31:19 PM »
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  • You mean, "stupidville"?

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    « Reply #12 on: February 26, 2017, 03:08:48 AM »
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  • Quote from: Phyllo
    Quote from: Nadir
    Killing two birds with one stone:

    A Book that Shows Why It Is Not Catholic

    Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.

    Book-review on Close-Ups of the Charismatic Movement by John Vennari
    (Los Angeles: TIA, 2002), 175 pp.

    http://www.traditioninaction.org/bkreviews/A_011br_CloseUps_Horvat.htm




    I checked out this book and it is over $40.00.  Know where I can get a cheaper one?

    and that was a used book.


    You should be able to find many articles online for free by John  Vennari of Catholic Family News CFN, also Mary Horvath should have many free articles too. Go to Tradition in Action website for Mary Horvath articles and from other authors.

    Catholic Charismatic movement was invented in like 1966. "Come next Saturday at 2pm  to see Fr. Xyz bring down the "Spirit", don't be late or you'll miss it! The Novus Ordo will do anything to get someone to come and occupy a seat and put money in the basket, just like Protestant ministers, religious businessmen that have to create a niche business for themselves to make a living. Sometimes a very famous and rich business!
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    « Reply #13 on: February 26, 2017, 11:18:30 AM »
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  • Quote from: Last Tradhican
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    Killing two birds with one stone:

    A Book that Shows Why It Is Not Catholic

    Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.

    Book-review on Close-Ups of the Charismatic Movement by John Vennari
    (Los Angeles: TIA, 2002), 175 pp.

    http://www.traditioninaction.org/bkreviews/A_011br_CloseUps_Horvat.htm




    I checked out this book and it is over $40.00.  Know where I can get a cheaper one?

    and that was a used book.


    You should be able to find many articles online for free by John  Vennari of Catholic Family News CFN, also Mary Horvath should have many free articles too. Go to Tradition in Action website for Mary Horvath articles and from other authors.

    Catholic Charismatic movement was invented in like 1966. "Come next Saturday at 2pm  to see Fr. Xyz bring down the "Spirit", don't be late or you'll miss it! The Novus Ordo will do anything to get someone to come and occupy a seat and put money in the basket, just like Protestant ministers, religious businessmen that have to create a niche business for themselves to make a living. Sometimes a very famous and rich business!


    I'll check out this site.  I get the CFN delivered and I enjoy it.
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    « Reply #14 on: February 26, 2017, 11:20:28 AM »
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  • Quote from: magdalena59
    There is a video on Sensus Fidelium youtube called On the Errors of Pentacostalim - aka Charismatic Renewal.

    It's a pretty good video.


    I'll check this out.,

    I would still like to read his book though.


     

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