Author Topic: THE NEW HYBRID MASS -- ROUGH DRAFT (Read 4593 times)

BlackIrish · « **Reply #30 on:** May 01, 2014, 05:23:11 PM »

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In fact, soulguard, your sensitivity is a manifestation of your own pride!

And, it's not meant to offend; I'm just pointing it out.

BlackIrish · « **Reply #31 on:** May 01, 2014, 05:42:53 PM »

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And another thing, soulguard, there appears to be a lot of hands reaching out to you on this forum, you should try to benefit from that rather than running away just because you got a response that was not in your favour.

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #32 on:** May 01, 2014, 05:46:37 PM »

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We are not all within your little bubble world of BS philosophy from neil obstat.
I object to your praise of him, and your rebuke of me and the other honest poster who says what I also think.

Not to be argumentative, but you missed my point and took it personally.

I SAID that Neil O presented some facts that were not addressed. Instead he was attacked personally.
I'm interested in a refute of the facts. Your facts may be correct, just counter each point he made. I like good debate.

Also, the ""bubble world of philosophy" I live in is One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic. No need to lash out unnecessarily.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #33 on:** May 01, 2014, 11:39:58 PM »

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Oh happy day, he didn't run away!
I feared he would and thought I should bid him a fair day.

And so I tried - keyboard at my side - to give to him his due,
With lilting verse I bid farewell, but he didn't have a clue.

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O come on.

You are using your own posts as a source of reference.

You are an inestimable joke neil obstat, and I cant stand you.
If it was not for the resistance internet phenomenon giving upstarts a cause to attack the SSPX, whom they ought to be grateful to, then you would have nothing to do, except perhaps ridicule Jєωs along the lines of some pseudo Catholic form of nαzιsm.

As Father Rostand use to say: Hell-oooooooooo

Where are all the thought police now, shouting crys of charity, meanie, etc. etc.?

Oh, I know, you're all out celebrating the novus malodourous saints!

Good point.
I've applauded SG for a few of the threads he started on charity toward each other on the forum. Very inspired.
And then, this comment re: Neil Obstat. It's incongruous, but don't we all struggle likewise?

My problem with those who post personal comments is that they often don't refute the facts stated. Neil O provided detail re: hybrid Mass a'comin', and 2 people attacked him personally. I'm more interested in factual refutation.
1) Please stick to facts. It makes reading much more efficient and much less stressful.
2) Please write to your fellow Catholic with the knowledge that He is standing right there. Remember, we are held accountable for every uncharitable act, and rewarded for every act of humility.

How does it look in the light of eternity?

I have called him out many times on his lies and outrageous insults against traditional groups.
Him and trolls like blackirish ( btw there is no such thing as a black "Irish") ridicule the SSPX like demons. Thanks to people like neil obstat, I want nothing to do with the resistance, and I know for a fact that anyone who I get to read this forum will think the same.

We are not all within your little bubble world of BS philosophy from neil obstat.
I object to your praise of him, and your rebuke of me and the other honest poster who says what I also think. Yet I wont call neil obstat any names because God watches me, but I will speak the truth as I see it. If he is right then he will provide proof of what he says, but like I said, referencing your own posts as evidence is not good enough and is simply VAIN.
so he should expect a back lash.

The return of the DRAMA LLAMA. (a.k.a. "it's all about soulguard")

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We all suffer from some degree of vanity, soulguard.

Also, there is such a thing/people as Black Irish - they are a mix of Norman and Celt. The most extreme features being jet black hair (Norman) and very fair skin (Celt), which is my combination. Part of my ancestry is from Country Wexford, Ireland - http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/leinster/index_wd.htm

I have not seen any dishonesty in the postings of NO, only the ponderings of a person concerned with his Faith. You, on the other hand, seem to ride over the lines of the narrow road. To be honest, I am not clear where you stand in terms of your Faith. :scratchchin:

You Go, Girl.

The world would be a poorer place without your spunk. Dig it.

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Neil Obstat · « **Reply #34 on:** May 01, 2014, 11:43:56 PM »

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In fact, soulguard, your sensitivity is a manifestation of your own pride!

And, it's not meant to offend; I'm just pointing it out.

Batter Up! (that's an american idiom)

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BlackIrish · « **Reply #35 on:** May 02, 2014, 04:14:25 PM »

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In fact, soulguard, your sensitivity is a manifestation of your own pride!

And, it's not meant to offend; I'm just pointing it out.

Batter Up! (that's an american idiom)

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I'm on deck . . . I've played baseball, but I haven't watched it since they went on strike eons ago!

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #36 on:** May 06, 2014, 08:19:21 AM »

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I recently attended a funeral -- we traditionally say "Requiem Mass" but this was called Mass of Christian Burial.

The music was somewhat traditional, as a lot of it was in Latin, Gregorian Chant. But it was all NovusOrdo. The various parts of the liturgy were in the vernacular.
So effectively, it was more honest than the canonization ceremony was, which was largely in Latin, and what wasn't Latin was mostly Italian (however the "prayers of the faithful" were in many languages which is commonplace in NovusOrdo settings like this these days).

While it might be upsetting to the stomach for many Trads and/or members of CI to pay any attention to what's going on in NovusOrdo parishes nearby and around the world, it seems to me it is good to have some idea of it, for the sake of intellectual awareness. To be entirely ignorant of it could be a shortcoming in due time. If you cannot speak to a NovusOrdo Catholic about what goes on in church, then how can you call him a Catholic?

If you cannot carry on an intelligent conversation because you have no idea what the difference is between your Canonized Latin Mass and this new Hybrid Mass, then how will you be able to see that this new hybrid is any different? Why would you not think it's just fine? Will it be okay with you when the Leonine Prayers after Low Mass are omitted? How about the Prayers at the Foot of the Altar -- are they expendable? Or the second Confiteor, or the three-times repetition of the Domine non sum dignus or the Kyrie, or the Sanctus?

You would be more honest to say that the NovusOrdo parishioner is not Catholic at all, because you will have so little in common with him. And that is one of the rules that Matthew has wisely set up here on CI, that we are not to pass judgment on the Catholicity of entire groups of people, whether it be NovusOrdo Catholics or sedevacantist Catholics or Eastern Rite Catholics or Resistance Catholics or SSPX Catholics or ICK Catholics or whatever.

If anyone is interested I could post some notes of the liturgy and how they conducted the whole thing. There were over 400 people in the church for this funeral, and many of them had traveled from overseas and all over the country to be there. The majority of the congregation sang the opening hymn and the Offertory hymn in 4-part harmony, because they were extended choir family members.

THE NEW HYBRID MASS IS COMING SOON TO A CHAPEL NEAR YOU.

It's coming like a freight train, and you won't be able to stop it.

I'm saying that ignorance can be a shortcoming because we are going to be seeing a new hybrid soon, and the SSPX is probably going to be on board with using it. Are you going to know how to react to that?

Are you going to be all hot and bothered about it?

Are you going to throw in the towel and say that the SSPX is no longer Catholic?

Are you going to say that the SSPX is outside the Church?

Are you going to say that the SSPX sacraments are no longer valid?

Are you ready for the new hybrid Mass that is certainly coming soon to a chapel near you?

Consider these clues previews of coming attractions.

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Neil Obstat · « **Reply #37 on:** May 06, 2014, 08:26:29 AM »

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There are a lot of things I'd like to say but I can't figure out which thread they should go in.

This thread is supposed to be about the new Hybrid Mass that is coming soon. So I suppose they belong here, but they involve a lot of specifics about other topics so I don't want to offend readers here who want to read just about the New Hybrid Mass and not about liturgies that are perhaps unrelated to the new hybrid mass.

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