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Offline LaramieHirsch

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Re: Catholic US vs Jewish US?
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2017, 04:16:01 PM »
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  • Have you read the Blanshard Amendments?
    Geremia, this suggestion won.  I liked it very much.  I mentioned you over at the blog today:
    https://thehirschfiles.blogspot.com/2017/04/catholic-culture-vs-pan-judaism.html
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    Re: Catholic US vs Jewish US?
    « Reply #16 on: April 20, 2017, 07:26:29 PM »
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  • some sects of Jews maybe do not go by the Old T
    but others do
    the Catholic Church retained the 7 books of the OT that one sect of the Jews also retained but Luther tossed out (b/c it didn't fit with his once saved always bs)
    Countrychurch, if the Jews followed and believed the Old Testament, they would be baptised and no longer be Jews but Catholics. However this is NOT the case.
     
    In fact Jews do not even have an “Old Testament” because that infers that there is a New Testament. They reject all prophecies of their holy books about the Messiah which have indeed been fulfilled.
     
    I wonder why you do not respond to Josefa, Geremia and me on the question of Jewish morality? It seems that you have to say something  about "the Catholic Church retain(ing) the 7 books of the OT that one sect of the Jews also retained" which is completely irrelevant here. 

    But do not acknowledge the information you are given. Why is that?
     
    So what do you have to say about the leading role played by Jews in the promotion of abortion, sodomy, and other deviant behaviours?
     
    Jews themselves admit that the Talmud takes precedence over their sacred scriptures that they have in common with Christians. Are you familiar with the Talmud?
    If not there is this. http://www.talmudunmasked.com/
    which has an Ecclesiastical Imprimatur issued 1892
    Or this: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmud1.htm


     


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    Re: Catholic US vs Jewish US?
    « Reply #17 on: April 20, 2017, 08:35:13 PM »
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    It seems to me that there have been a number of points raised in this thread.
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    So what do you have to say about the leading role played by Jews in the promotion of abortion, sodomy, and other deviant behaviours?

    Jews themselves admit that the Talmud takes precedence over their sacred scriptures that they have in common with Christians. Are you familiar with the Talmud?
    If not there is this. http://www.talmudunmasked.com/
    which has an Ecclesiastical Imprimatur issued 1892
    Or this: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmud1.htm
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    Far too many Jews today are largely agnostic and atheist, unfortunately, even if they are ashamed or afraid to admit it. The common fact of them going to temple and having bar-mitzvahs and bat-mitzvahs which entails having their children learn how to read from the Torah (some use the Talmud and call it "the Torah!"), means that they are helping their children to appreciate the rich tradition and symbolism of the Jewish culture, but then they are not teaching their children from a personal adherence to the faith of the ancient Jews. The fact that it costs no small sum of money to hire tutors to prepare the children for their "graduation" a.k.a. bar/bat mitzvah, is an "investment" that they're making to help their children be proud of being Jewish.
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    There is an over-riding problem with all this. While it is interesting to see the attention to detail that goes on in training a child to know what to do for his ceremony, and it's interesting to see the blue and white striped robes they wear for the occasion, the fact that these Jews reject the divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ is the beginning of their problem. They deny that Jesus is God, and therefore their whole system corrupts and falls apart.
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    For generation after generation they splinter like Protestant sects into all manner of reform, traditional, ultra-traditional, quasi-reform and so on and so forth to the point where you don't know what to think anymore. About 20 years ago I attended a big pow-wow at Valley Beth Shalom temple in Sherman Oaks, CA, run by Rabbi Schulweis. There was a cordial meet-and-greet afterwards, during which time one Jewish man made it a point to approach me, introduce himself and proceeded to decry the then-current state of affairs there at this synagogue. He said that in all history, Jews had never been accepting of homosexuals in the congregation, and it was "taboo" in all the world to even consider such a thing. But there Harold M. Schulweis was, starting to peel off the stigma and welcome homos into their midst, and he was making no secret about it. In fact, he told me, you can walk down the hall right there (outside the door) and go see the display window of their gift shop that has his several books propped up in the window. I took his advice and I went to see the sordid array of pro-homo literature. And if it helps, this ceremony had Roger Cardinal Mahony featured, during which time he stood on "stage" (they call the area -- we would say sanctuary) and silently held Rabbi Schulweis arm in arm as they stared for about a minute at 6 fat candles burning in front of them. Guess what those were for? (You guessed it, the "six million")
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    It starts with refusing God's divine revelation in the person of Our Lord Jesus Christ, who proved Who He was by His miracles. He said, If you do not believe me, at least believe my miracles. That was His last cry for help lest they be hardened in their sin and condemned forever, with His blood being upon their heads and upon their children. Those chief priests and scribes who really did know better because they could see the prophesies being fulfilled, decided they simply would not believe because this Jesus was NOT the KIND of KING they WANTED to have. They wanted an earthly king who would overpower the Roman monster. Little did they know that God's plan included using the Roman monster to spread the Faith and survive the centuries.......... That is, until Vatican II, anyway. 
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    But seriously, we ought to keep in mind the perfidy of the Jews and not let the same thing happen to us!! 
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    If the Church can survive the catacombs She can certainly survive Vatican II.
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    Re: Catholic US vs Jewish US?
    « Reply #18 on: April 24, 2017, 09:29:11 AM »
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  • Geremia, this suggestion won.  I liked it very much.  I mentioned you over at the blog today:
    https://thehirschfiles.blogspot.com/2017/04/catholic-culture-vs-pan-judaism.html
    I hadn't heard of Star-Spangled Crown before. How does it compare to the author's much longer Puritan's Empire? Is it a sort of abridged Puritan's Empire? thanks
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