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Offline JezusDeKoning

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Re: Catholic Courting
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2018, 10:08:51 AM »
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  • One of you is giving us the Catholic perspective on courting. The other is acting like a basement-dweller whose view of women is shaped and warped by smut, adding Catholic-sounding verbiage to give it that religious, CathInfo™-approved veneer à la the nun on GD. 
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    Re: Catholic Courting
    « Reply #16 on: June 22, 2018, 10:21:29 AM »
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  • I found the lecture from Fr. Ripperger quite excellent. The issue though is that most Catholic young women I know would probably see what he says as too struct( these are mostly "conservative" Novus Ordos) Options are very limited 
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    Offline Croix de Fer

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    Re: Catholic Courting
    « Reply #17 on: June 24, 2018, 08:59:45 PM »
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  • It is his decision if the Father is "a good, strong, holy Catholic man". It is his job to protect his daughter. If the person does not go about the courtship  with respect, he will not even get to first base.

    Ain't no woman's daddy stopping me. If he doesn't like me, he won't stop from being with a woman whom I love and who loves me. He'd be hurting, if he tried.
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    Re: Catholic Courting
    « Reply #18 on: June 24, 2018, 09:49:17 PM »
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  • Ain't no woman's daddy stopping me. If he doesn't like me, he won't stop from being with a woman whom I love and who loves me. He'd be hurting, if he tried.

    Any woman who would be tolerant of this type of behavior from a potential future husband, is not a virtuous woman.  

    From my experience, a virtuous woman usually comes from a virtuous father, and she tends to seek those qualities of her father in discerning her future husband.

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    Re: Catholic Courting
    « Reply #19 on: June 24, 2018, 10:33:30 PM »
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  • Any woman who would be tolerant of this type of behavior from a potential future husband, is not a virtuous woman.  

    From my experience, a virtuous woman usually comes from a virtuous father, and she tends to seek those qualities of her father in discerning her future husband.
    I agree, but if a woman's dad, due to personality conflict or because his own standards aren't met, tries to stop another man from pursuing & marrying his daughter, he is wrong. Who is to say that dad isn't worldly, thus his perception and standards are skewed? If that type of man gets in my way, his world is getting hit like a Peterbilt. Ultimately, even a good, faithful, holy Catholic woman wants to be conquered by a Catholic man with same qualities, even if it's to the dismay of her worldly father.

    There are trad Catholics who converted to the Faith but their parents disapprove of it, or a cradle Novus Ordoite comes home to Holy Tradition, and she's scorned by her worldly family.  The above scenario of the dad is an example.
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    Re: Catholic Courting
    « Reply #20 on: June 25, 2018, 03:04:48 AM »
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  • I am always amazed at advice given by people who don't have children to people who do...

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    Re: Catholic Courting
    « Reply #21 on: June 25, 2018, 03:08:35 AM »
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  • Ain't no woman's daddy stopping me. If he doesn't like me, he won't stop from being with a woman whom I love and who loves me. He'd be hurting, if he tried.
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    You sound an awful lot like a certain lay exorcist Mexican in KY...
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    Re: Catholic Courting
    « Reply #22 on: June 25, 2018, 03:55:02 AM »
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    You sound an awful lot like a certain lay exorcist Mexican in KY...
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    You sound an awful like a flaky woman experiencing cognitive dissonance over the fact you're attracted to me. Is this why you're stalking me on CathInfo? Are you trying to prove to yourself that you don't like me, but at the same time, you're compelled to have this interaction with me because you need me?  :cowboy:
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    Re: Catholic Courting
    « Reply #23 on: June 25, 2018, 04:19:18 AM »
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  • You sound an awful like a flaky woman experiencing cognitive dissonance over the fact you're attracted to me. Is this why you're stalking me on CathInfo? Are you trying to prove to yourself that you don't like me, but at the same time, you're compelled to have this interaction with me because you need me?  :cowboy:
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    You didn't deny my assertion, Pablo.
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    You need professional help.

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    Re: Catholic Courting
    « Reply #24 on: June 25, 2018, 04:27:36 AM »
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    You didn't deny my assertion, Pablo.
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    You need professional help.

    You're projecting your evasion of my correct assessment of you, which is you're flaky...you're attracted to me...you stalk me...and you have cognitive dissonance. :farmer:
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    Re: Catholic Courting
    « Reply #25 on: June 25, 2018, 04:28:21 AM »
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  • You're projecting your evasion of my correct assessment of you, which is you're flaky...you're attracted to me...you stalk me...and you have cognitive dissonance. :farmer:

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    Re: Catholic Courting
    « Reply #26 on: June 25, 2018, 04:31:39 AM »
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    So you're admitting you have a history of psychiatric diagnoses?

    Nice projection. 8)
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    Re: Catholic Courting
    « Reply #27 on: June 25, 2018, 08:44:31 AM »
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  • If that type of man gets in my way, his world is getting hit like a Peterbilt.
    You are imagining too much, there is no such obstacle in your way. A woman raised in that environment before you show up is a type of convert, a dangerous person to marry for they can always revert back to the ways of their whole life before you showed up.  The girls you should pursue are the ones raised by a father like I described, and if they reject you, it will be for good reason, for something which you have to correct to improve yourself, for your own good.
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    Re: Catholic Courting
    « Reply #28 on: June 26, 2018, 05:54:30 AM »
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    Absolutely.
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    One caveat...  delete "In many ways".
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    We don't use the word "dating" in our home.
    Agreed - my point is that the interaction between young men and women should be under supervision, and the boundaries clearly set.  Especially time alone in private which can only lead to a near occasion for sin should not be acceptable.  Girls also need to be taught to say NO and boys that they should not only respect that, but that any girl who does not value herself enough to say no, is not worthy of serious attention.

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    Re: Catholic Courting
    « Reply #29 on: June 26, 2018, 07:51:36 AM »
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  • An older woman’s experience here; find out how a prospective husband treats HIS parents.  If isn’t with honor and respect, that’s a deal breaker.  A man will treat you as he treats his parents.  Even if his parents are not worthy of honor or respect, a godly man will refrain from bad-mouthing them.  A woman, likewise, should show proper honor, respect, and obedience to her parents.  
    Anyone who does not respect his or her elders is not marriage material.