Well, yes, out in the real world we do have to be careful about what we talk about, especially 9/11 and the h0Ɩ0cαųst. But this forum provides a place to discuss controversial subjects. And other trad venues, such as the AKA Catholic blog, seems like it should be a place to admit of one's true beliefs, but that doesn't seem to be the case (for Verrecchio anyway).

Yeah, forums are funny that way.  I guess that because we (or some of us, since I don't) maintain our anonymity, we feel almost as if this is a private chat.  But it really is a public venue ... and can affect someone's impression of Traditional Catholicism.

Then you believe that we shouldn't be allowed to discuss FE from a religious POV?

We are Catholics here.  Just about everything should be considered from a religious point of view.  The point of view is not the problem.  It is the religious errors.  There is no justification whatsoever for saying that belief in spherical earth is a heresy or that there is any obligation on Catholics to accept a flat earth.

This isn't like sedevacantism or baptism of desire where people can make good arguments on both sides.  It is a totally baseless position. 

 But what bearing on a person's salvation does the h0Ɩ0cαųst question have?

Ladislaus, I value your opinion on many things and I realize that there are some, if not even many, Catholics who are embarrassed by those Catholics who publicly insist on the truth of geocentrism or insist on the falsity of the 6 million gas chamber version of what is commonly referred to as the h0Ɩ0cαųst.  A good number of traditional Catholics may feel that it is highly imprudent to publicly assert these views because that will drive potential traditional Catholics as well as non-Catholics from coming to accept traditional Catholicism.  Obviously, this is something which various Catholics of "good faith and will" can disagree on.

I, for the record, don't think that traditional Catholics should back away from publicly asserting the truth of geocentrism nor the falsity of the 6 million gas chamber fairy tale. 

I think Catholics should realize that the Shoah Theology built around and on the 6 million gas chamber myth is a total sham which feeds an international extortion racket as well as a perpetual victim card for the modern day ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan, not to mention a vast brainwashing element in our society which works to legitimize anti-Christ тαℓмυdic Judaism while all the while marginalizing and even deligitimizing the Theology of Calvary.  I think it is  important that Catholics push back on this demonic lying hoax regardless of whether others are put off by it or not.

I think many Catholics simply undervalue -- if indeed they assign any value at all to it -- of the importance of the truth of geocentrism and of the importance of the falsity of the conventional h0Ɩ0cαųst narrative.

The "official" h0Ɩ0cαųst narrative has become a pillar of the modern ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan's anti-Christ religion.  That is why I believe it is fair game to fight against it with all of our informed beliefs and wits on public forums such as this and others.

******************************************************************************************************************
You ask "what bearing on a person's salvation does the h0Ɩ0cαųst question have."  I think that question represents the classical way Catholics and others use to put down discussion, and more specifically critiques of the h0Ɩ0cαųst question/narrative.  My answer to your question is that the h0Ɩ0cαųst question is absolutely integral to the Jєωιѕн Question and the Jєωιѕн Question has indeed had a real bearing on people's salvation in the practical order of things down through the centuries.  Traditional minded popes such as Pope St. Pius V were well aware of the immense danger Jєωs presented and they spoke and wrote about it and sometimes took strong practical measures against it.

The ignorance which so many Catholics seem to have concerning the Jєωιѕн Question is most unfortunate because by their ignorance they disarm themselves of the powerful defense of the truth.  The h0Ɩ0cαųst as the world would have us believe is a despicable lie and it no ordinary lie.  It is a lie which serves as a mainstay and mighty pillar to the demonic religion of Judaism.  That false religion with all of its tentacles is at total war with Christianity.  As soldiers of the Church militant we are called to fight back and part of fighting back is to boldly expose the falsity of that pillar of modern day Judaism known as the h0Ɩ0cαųst.

Pope St. Pius X: "In our times more than ever before, the chief strength of the wicked, lies in the cowardice  and weakness of good men....All the strength of Satan's reign is due to the easy-going weakness of Catholics."   Pope St. Pius X didn't hesitate to tell the Theodor Herzl, the founder of modern day Zionism, to take a hike.  He told him straight out that Catholics could not recognize the Jєωs because the Jєωs do not recognize Our Saviour Jesus Christ.  Now in modern times we are supposed to recognize the centerpiece of modern day Zionism, the h0Ɩ0h0αx.  The lie of the h0Ɩ0h0αx arose from hell and that is where it should be cast back with no apologies or qualifications whatsoever. 

You should try to get yourself appointed moderator here, Jayne, like you did on the Fisheaters forum when you took the side of the sodomite tranny and Tracy forum owner who were against those of us who believe in Church teaching.

I never tried to get myself appointed moderator there or anywhere.  There was once  a post on CI that accused me of that.  It came from a person "reading between the lines" of a Fisheaters post in which I responded to somebody else's suggestion that I be a moderator.  I clearly rejected the idea and listed all the reasons why it was a bad idea. My accuser decided that I really meant the opposite of what I wrote.  I can probably find the thread if you really want to see it.  

It is true that I did take the wrong side on "Trannygate" at first.  I eventually figured out that I was wrong, took a public stand against the forum owner's position and was banned.  I regret that it took me so long.

Jayne, you obviously believe that we should not be able to use religion to back up our claim of a flat earth.

You want us to separate God from His Creation. That's what the progressives want too. We cannot comply with you rule.

Catholicism does not back up your claim of a flat earth and I object to you saying that it does.  I have no objection to people backing up their claims with religion when they use factual statements about Catholicism.  For example, I would have no problem with a person supporting traditional (spherical earth) geocentrism by appealing to Catholic teaching.

Do you believe the 6 million (mostly gas chamber victims) narrative?  Do you think it  was wrong for Bishop Williamson to have openly critiqued it?

No, I do not believe the mainstream narrative regarding the h0Ɩ0cαųst.  I do not think it was "wrong" per se for Bishop Williamson to publicly criticize it, but I do think that it was imprudent.

I remember it well. You were so sure that you were correct to support the sodomite tranny and Tracy, and that everyone who opposed them (and you) were wrong. I was one of the most outspoken against your view, and I was banned because of it. But that was okay, because I didn't want to be a part of a forum like that anyway.

Thanks for the story. 
Again, very revealing.