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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: CathInfo Upgrade - Certain Subforums will not appear in Recent Topics
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2018, 12:35:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 17, 2018, 12:33:59 PM
    When was the last time Meg and Ladislaus agreed on something?!!  Ha ha.

    I was thinking the same thing when I wrote that.
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    « Reply #31 on: May 17, 2018, 12:40:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: Neil Obstat on May 17, 2018, 02:45:59 AM
    There is no need to suppress flat-earthism because it fails on every front by its own inadequacy and manifest falsehood.

    Then why do you spend so much time attacking it?  I wouldn't spent five minutes of my time arguing against something that's manifestly false ... that reptilian aliens from the Pluto have taken over the Vatican.

    Despite its manifest falsehood, Neil, you have yet to produce a single piece of concrete proof of its falsehood ... which should be pretty easy to do if it were THAT OBVIOUSLY false.  Instead you produce tons of wind and rhetoric.
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    Re: CathInfo Upgrade - Certain Subforums will not appear in Recent Topics
    « Reply #32 on: May 17, 2018, 12:41:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 17, 2018, 12:40:09 PM
    I wouldn't spent five minutes of my time arguing against something that's manifestly false ... that reptilian aliens from the Pluto have taken over the Vatican.

    Maybe I should give a REAL example.  There was the poster who claimed that Paul VI is still alive and waiting to reclaim the Holy See and restore the Church.  Why would I spent hours and hours of my time trying to refute that?
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    « Reply #33 on: May 17, 2018, 12:54:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 17, 2018, 12:32:33 PM
    This is not a flat earth website; it is for Catholicism in general, news, prayers, organization and theological discussion.  'Flat earth' has its own subforum, for crying out loud.  What more do they want?

    Except that Flat Earth DOES have to do with Catholicism inasmuch as God created the earth and everything in it.

    But even if you don't believe that FE has anything to do with Catholicism, there are still other subjects that are discussed on the forum that don't have to do with Catholicism. Are those subjects to be censored as well? 
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    « Reply #34 on: May 17, 2018, 12:56:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 17, 2018, 12:35:56 PM
    I was thinking the same thing when I wrote that.

    ;D
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    Re: CathInfo Upgrade - Certain Subforums will not appear in Recent Topics
    « Reply #35 on: May 17, 2018, 01:26:42 PM »
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    • Here are some numbers. Sorry I don't know how to make a proper table for them. The order is by number of topics started in the last hundred threads on the FE subforum.  The letters stand for flat and globe. The numbers are (from left to right) topics started in the subforum over the last hundred, number of posts to the subforum, total posts to CI.  I left out everyone who started less than 4 threads, with the exception of Meg since she is a major poster.

    Smedley Butler    (F) 13       643     778
    TruthisEternal      (F) 11       843   1713
    Neil  Obstat         (G) 11     2022   5874
    An Even Seven    (G)  8      556    2124
    WholeFoodsTrad  (F) 7       421      508
    kiwiboy                 (F) 7       348       499
    Jaynek                 (G) 5       723     2415
    cassini                 (G) 4       154     1327
    happenby             (F) 4     1491     2226
    Ladislaus              (?) 4      487    13930
    Meg                      (F) 1      640      2350

    In order of total posts to the subforum:
    Neil Obstat
    happenby
    TruthisEternal
    jaynek
    SmedleyButler
    Meg 
    AnEvenSeven
    Ladislaus
    WholeFoodsTrad
    kiwiboy
    cassini

    Among these posters approximately 4100 posts were by flatearthers and 3500 by spherists and another 500 by Ladislaus who does not want to take sides.
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    « Reply #36 on: May 17, 2018, 01:29:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 17, 2018, 12:40:09 PM
    Then why do you spend so much time attacking it?  
    I can't speak for Neil, but I spend so much time on it because most of them are claiming that there is an obligation for all Catholics to believe the earth is flat.  That is a lie about the Church, whatever shape the earth has.  
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    « Reply #37 on: May 17, 2018, 01:44:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on May 17, 2018, 12:54:04 PM
    But even if you don't believe that FE has anything to do with Catholicism, there are still other subjects that are discussed on the forum that don't have to do with Catholicism. Are those subjects to be censored as well?
    You are not being censored.  You can still write what you want in the proper subforum. You are being made easier to avoid by the people who wish to do so.

    I have been involved in online discussions for over 25 years and seen a lot of moderators/ forum owners.  I don't think I have ever seen one who would allow a place for flat earth discussions.  The typical reaction is that it's wrong, it's stupid, and it makes one's forum look bad.  
    This forum is different because Matthew's vision for it includes a wish to allow "fringe" topics even when he himself disagrees with them.  People don't call Cathinfo "the Wild West of trad forums" just because the owner is from Texas.  I don't know of another trad forum that would allow you to post on flat earth as you have.  

    Instead of showing gratitude the flatearthers are complaining about how they are mistreated and censored, maligning Matthews motives, and implying he made this forum upgrade because he was stupid enough to get tricked into it.
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    « Reply #38 on: May 17, 2018, 01:47:18 PM »
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    • Yesterday I posted, and it was deleted, that of the 20 threads on page 1 of the ghetto, 14 were started by globetards, 6 by flats. 

    So who is causing the so-called popularity problem again??
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    « Reply #39 on: May 17, 2018, 01:51:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jaynek on May 17, 2018, 01:44:25 PM
    You are not being censored.  You can still write what you want in the proper subforum. You are being made easier to avoid by the people who wish to do so.

    I have been involved in online discussions for over 25 years and seen a lot of moderators/ forum owners.  I don't think I have ever seen one who would allow a place for flat earth discussions.  The typical reaction is that it's wrong, it's stupid, and it makes one's forum look bad.  
    This forum is different because Matthew's vision for it includes a wish to allow "fringe" topics even when he himself disagrees with them.  People don't call Cathinfo "the Wild West of trad forums" just because the owner is from Texas.  I don't know of another trad forum that would allow you to post on flat earth as you have.  

    Instead of showing gratitude the flatearthers are complaining about how they are mistreated and censored, maligning Matthews motives, and implying he made this forum upgrade because he was stupid enough to get tricked into it.
    Jaynek has EIGHTY more replies to the ghetto than me, what irony!
    I guess she was too dumb to realize every time she responds she kept the ghetto in the "recent threads" column. Then she complains about the problem she caused.
    Ironic
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    Re: CathInfo Upgrade - Certain Subforums will not appear in Recent Topics
    « Reply #40 on: May 17, 2018, 01:53:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: Smedley Butler on May 17, 2018, 01:47:18 PM
    Yesterday I posted, and it was deleted, that of the 20 threads on page 1 of the ghetto, 14 were started by globetards, 6 by flats.

    So who is causing the so-called popularity problem again??
    You need a larger sample size to get statistically significant results.
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    « Reply #41 on: May 17, 2018, 02:34:29 PM »
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    • Quote from: Smedley Butler on May 17, 2018, 01:51:46 PM
    Jaynek has EIGHTY more replies to the ghetto than me, what irony!
    I guess she was too dumb to realize every time she responds she kept the ghetto in the "recent threads" column. Then she complains about the problem she caused.
    Ironic
    I was aware that I created more traffic on the subforum.  I faced a dilemma.  I could leave their errors unopposed, possibly creating an impression that the flat-earthers spoke for all of Cathinfo.  Or I could give all the arguments to show that they are wrong, possibly creating an impression that it was an interesting and important topic.

    Given two undesirable choices, I picked the one that seemed less bad.  This is one reason that I am so enthusiastic about the forum upgrade.  I no longer am put in a position with no good options.
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    « Reply #42 on: May 17, 2018, 02:37:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jaynek on May 17, 2018, 01:26:42 PM
    Here are some numbers. Sorry I don't know how to make a proper table for them. The order is by number of topics started in the last hundred threads on the FE subforum.  The letters stand for flat and globe. The numbers are (from left to right) topics started in the subforum over the last hundred, number of posts to the subforum, total posts to CI.  I left out everyone who started less than 4 threads, with the exception of Meg since she is a major poster.

    Smedley Butler    (F) 13       643     778
    TruthisEternal      (F) 11       843   1713
    Neil  Obstat         (G) 11     2022   5874
    An Even Seven    (G)  8      556    2124
    WholeFoodsTrad  (F) 7       421      508
    kiwiboy                 (F) 7       348       499
    Jaynek                 (G) 5       723     2415
    cassini                 (G) 4       154     1327
    happenby             (F) 4     1491     2226
    Ladislaus              (?) 4      487    13930
    Meg                      (F) 1      640      2350

    In order of total posts to the subforum:
    Neil Obstat
    happenby
    TruthisEternal
    jaynek
    SmedleyButler
    Meg
    AnEvenSeven
    Ladislaus
    WholeFoodsTrad
    kiwiboy
    cassini

    Among these posters approximately 4100 posts were by flatearthers and 3500 by spherists and another 500 by Ladislaus who does not want to take sides.

    So, roughly split down the middle as I had suspected.  Thank you for looking up the numbers.  2 of the top 4, and 4 of the top 8 thread starters have been globe-earthers.
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    « Reply #43 on: May 17, 2018, 02:40:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jaynek on May 17, 2018, 01:26:42 PM

    ... and another 500 by Ladislaus who does not want to take sides.

    Now now, it's not that I don't WANT to take sides.  I just haven't been 100% convinced of either side yet.

    :)
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    « Reply #44 on: May 17, 2018, 02:48:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jaynek on May 17, 2018, 01:26:42 PM
    Here are some numbers. Sorry I don't know how to make a proper table for them. The order is by number of topics started in the last hundred threads on the FE subforum.  The letters stand for flat and globe. The numbers are (from left to right) topics started in the subforum over the last hundred, number of posts to the subforum, total posts to CI.  I left out everyone who started less than 4 threads, with the exception of Meg since she is a major poster.

    Smedley Butler    (F) 13       643     778
    TruthisEternal      (F) 11       843   1713
    Neil  Obstat         (G) 11     2022   5874
    An Even Seven    (G)  8      556    2124
    WholeFoodsTrad  (F) 7       421      508
    kiwiboy                 (F) 7       348       499
    Jaynek                 (G) 5       723     2415
    cassini                 (G) 4       154     1327
    happenby             (F) 4     1491     2226
    Ladislaus              (?) 4      487    13930
    Meg                      (F) 1      640      2350

    In order of total posts to the subforum:
    Neil Obstat
    happenby
    TruthisEternal
    jaynek
    SmedleyButler
    Meg
    AnEvenSeven
    Ladislaus
    WholeFoodsTrad
    kiwiboy
    cassini

    Among these posters approximately 4100 posts were by flatearthers and 3500 by spherists and another 500 by Ladislaus who does not want to take sides.

    Your table is supposed to prove....what exactly?
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