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CathInfo rules summary - do not call good evil, or evil good
« on: October 07, 2014, 05:52:28 PM »
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  • If there's one thing I won't tolerate on CathInfo, it's

    Calling evil "good"/calling good "evil".

    That is the crap that each one of us has to face out there in the World, which is completely upside-down. Everything good is vilified, and everything evil is praised. It's enough to drive one insane.

    CathInfo WILL BE an oasis of sanity, and if I have to ban a few people to keep the insanity out, then so be it.

    This most fundamental of CI rules is WHY, for example, I do not tolerate on CathInfo:

    Dogmatic sedevacantists - they look at a perfectly traditional Catholic man and/or family (good) and call them "non-Catholic" (evil) because they haven't embraced the "dogma" of sedevacantism.

    Fellay fanboys - They eat neo-SSPX propaganda for breakfast, and have lost the ability to think. They are so obsessed with "team colors", they de-facto act as if the SSPX and the Catholic Church are one and the same. All they can do is parrot back propaganda, and are completely deaf to all reason, hard evidence, reality itself, etc.

    Cult Missionaries - or, those who consider CI to be missionary territory where the entire membership needs to "convert to Catholicism". For the same reason as the dogmatic sedevacantists.

    Deluded Conciliarists - or those who don't believe Traditional Catholicism has a fundamental right to exist. Those who think there is no justification for attending a Tridentine Mass and staying aloof from the Conciliar Church and/or Novus Ordo Missae. Hello, this is a Traditional Catholic forum. If you don't believe in the cause, go back to Catholic Answers! There are plenty of forums for you.
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    CathInfo rules summary - do not call good evil, or evil good
    « Reply #1 on: October 07, 2014, 09:06:30 PM »
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  • I wonder how many are getting to Heaven now as I read this thread.

    Anyway, I agree to it. After all Matthew is the BOSS of this forum.


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    CathInfo rules summary - do not call good evil, or evil good
    « Reply #2 on: October 07, 2014, 09:08:27 PM »
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    GJC, I thought it meant,  those who come here and call others who believe in Baptism of Desire, as heretics, meaning outside the Church.  

    They believe they have "The Call" to bring us back into the fold.



    I presumed Matthew was referring to the anonymous or new member novus ordo-y "Come Home" flavor topics that pop up from time to time, meaning we are outside the Church for being traditional; that is, inside the Church.        

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    CathInfo rules summary - do not call good evil, or evil good
    « Reply #3 on: October 07, 2014, 11:27:23 PM »
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  • Quote from: GJC
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    Cult Missionaries - or, those who consider CI to be missionary territory where the entire membership needs to "convert to Catholicism". For the same reason as the dogmatic sedevacantists.


    Matthew, could you clarify what you mean by this?

    Thank you



    We have had members in the past who considered nearly 100% of CathInfo's membership to be non-Catholic. Therefore they entered CathInfo as a missionary entering a pagan or non-Catholic land. They didn't consider themselves to be among fellow Catholics or here to make friends, discuss, etc. -- but to proselytize their own sect/cult/etc. because it sure wasn't the Catholic Faith they were trying to convert us to!  We're already Catholic.

    Anyone who thinks most (or all) of CathInfo's membership isn't Catholic -- there's the door.

    I'm not going to force most of the membership to endure being called non-Catholic so I can have one kooky extremist member. No deal.

    I said "same reason as the dogmatic sedevacantists" because both groups have the same modus operandi. They are both "obsessed" with pushing their own cult/personal opinions on the entire Catholic membership here. They both wish to bind others -- they would push their own cult/personal opinions on all and sundry.

    Such people aren't Traditional Catholics trying to keep the Faith. They are cult members with an agenda.
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    CathInfo rules summary - do not call good evil, or evil good
    « Reply #4 on: October 08, 2014, 08:14:16 AM »
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    Roger that.


    Is your reply some sort of offhand acknowledgment that you have up to this point behaved in the precise manner deprecated by Matthew? Does it mean, furthermore, that you intend to mend your ways? Or does it simply mean something akin to "I dig where you're at, man," with no implicit purpose of amendment attached, no intent to conform your conduct to Matthew's stated requirements?

    I am not alone, I think, in wondering whether the JC part of your screen name stands for John Calvin, whose detestation of the True Faith many, perhaps most, of your prior comments have seemed to channel. Even your signature line, to the extent that it is written in intelligible English, bespeaks a pride and censoriousness troubling to a Catholic reader. What's more, I have lost count of the number of CI commenters you have already called non-Catholic or un-Catholic.


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    « Reply #5 on: October 08, 2014, 04:37:07 PM »
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    You are apparently not familiar with military lingo.

    The rest of your post makes no sense.


    I was in the military, smart guy. I fought in a war, a real war, smart guy, not some long-distance, let's-bomb-some-civilians-and-laugh-about-it crap. So don't tell me that there was no inherent deviousness in your use of "Roger that."

    The reason that the "rest of [my] post makes no sense" to you is either (1) that you've forgotten that all of your earlier offensive and insulting comments have been archived—anyone who wants to spend a nauseated twenty minutes reading them can easily do so—or (2) that you have nothing between your ears to make sense of it with.

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    « Reply #6 on: October 08, 2014, 05:07:03 PM »
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  • I see no mention in the OP of public heretics. Are they welcome?

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    « Reply #7 on: October 09, 2014, 11:57:17 AM »
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    I see no mention in the OP of public heretics. Are they welcome?


    Heresy is objectively "evil" -- so I wouldn't want to see heresies called "good".

    Generally speaking, "observers" or "those here to learn" are very, very rare. Those who don't belong tend to not stick around.

    This is a forum for Traditional Catholics, and those who consider themselves Traditional Catholics.


    And when I say heresy, I mean protestants, mohammedans and other heretics. Not disputed topics within Catholicism.
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    « Reply #8 on: October 09, 2014, 01:25:41 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
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    I see no mention in the OP of public heretics. Are they welcome?


    Heresy is objectively "evil" -- so I wouldn't want to see heresies called "good".

    Generally speaking, "observers" or "those here to learn" are very, very rare. Those who don't belong tend to not stick around.

    This is a forum for Traditional Catholics, and those who consider themselves Traditional Catholics.


    And when I say heresy, I mean protestants, mohammedans and other heretics. Not disputed topics within Catholicism.


    Dear Matthew,

    I sent this to the well intended OP below. Are you aware of this was uploaded on to this site? Please read further.

    parentsfortruth said:
    Saw this in the ridiculous thread regarding the validity of Archbishop Lefebvre's ordination, but wanted to post it here.

    Not very many Chiesa Viva papers are translated into English, but this one is important, considering it's the most recent issue--- from this month!

     Very necessary read.

     God have mercy on us.

    http://freepdfhosting.com/4f9f222cd2 [/size]


    I am sure you meant well in posting this, but these are allegations against Benedect. The owner of this forumn must take the links to that article down immediately, or he is approving of your post!


    THKS  
    -Lou Lemaire
     





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    « Reply #9 on: October 09, 2014, 03:24:31 PM »
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  • I don't know where that was posted. I can't find it.

    I click the link and get a "404: not found" error.
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    « Reply #10 on: October 09, 2014, 03:29:37 PM »
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  • So, does this mean that TRADITIO is not the big bad bully anymore?


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    « Reply #11 on: October 09, 2014, 03:37:49 PM »
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    I don't know where that was posted. I can't find it.

    I click the link and get a "404: not found" error.


    Hello. Add ".pdf" to the end of the link that came back 404. It is serious accusations.

    THKS

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    « Reply #12 on: October 09, 2014, 05:16:41 PM »
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    And when I say heresy, I mean protestants, mohammedans and other heretics. Not disputed topics within Catholicism.


    I wish those on BOTH sides of legitimately disputed topics within Catholicism would stop the divisive conduct of calling each other heretics.

    P.S.  I'm sure that I just became a heretic in the eyes of both sides for not taking a side.

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    « Reply #13 on: October 09, 2014, 07:43:21 PM »
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    And when I say heresy, I mean protestants, mohammedans and other heretics. Not disputed topics within Catholicism.


    Hmm, you know, there are many so-called Catholics, TLM goers even, who knowingly deny explicit dogmas of the faith. One fellow from my church argues that the God of the Old Testament is not the same as the God of the New. This is needless to say not a disputed topic, but sheer and simple heresy. I'm kind of curious whether vocal people of this sort, who have made public and knowing profession of their heresies, are welcome here.

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    « Reply #14 on: October 09, 2014, 08:12:14 PM »
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    And when I say heresy, I mean protestants, mohammedans and other heretics. Not disputed topics within Catholicism.


    Hmm, you know, there are many so-called Catholics, TLM goers even, who knowingly deny explicit dogmas of the faith. One fellow from my church argues that the God of the Old Testament is not the same as the God of the New. This is needless to say not a disputed topic, but sheer and simple heresy. I'm kind of curious whether vocal people of this sort, who have made public and knowing profession of their heresies, are welcome here.


    One problem is that we've become too comfortable with condemning others as heretics and excommunicating them -- thanks to people like the Dimond Bros who have made this routine and automatic.

    The fact of the matter is, Catholics will disagree about things and without a fully functional Church to teach and arbitrate (and let's not forget -- CLARIFY various important matters!) there are going to be disagreements.

    But a disagreement about the Faith means that ONE SIDE or the OTHER is, at least materially, a heretic. Both sides can't be right.

    But we need to have some patience with each other. We also can't presume bad will. Such is contrary to the virtue of Charity.
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